From: Joerg on
krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:18:58 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 06:46:23 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:29:49 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>>>> b. A futures trading system for components. With hedge contracts and the
>>>>>> whole nine yards.
>>>>> Isn't that what disties do? They have the added advantage of being fronted by
>>>>> some manufacturers.
>>>>>
>>>> They are mostly just a sales outlet for the manufacturers. Typically
>>>> they don't do speculative buys.
>>> They do. That's why they have "in stock" > 0, on some parts. With other more
>>> expensive parts they're fronted (consignment, essentially).
>>>
>> Even large end customers have consignment deals.
>
> They don't have to be large. They keep some of our inventory, but that wasn't
> my point.
>
>> But usually when a part
>> becomes scarce the lights go out pretty much everywhere. Disties do have
>> stock beyond others on occasion but it's mostly not enough to avoid
>> running dry. BT, many times :-(
>
> They normally keep stock of the common parts, mostly passives, and some of
> them *are* getting scarce. Yes, if a part is scarce they aren't likely to
> have any either. ;-)
>

See, that's where my futures trading comes in. Some investor could buy
the rights to 200,000 MSP430F5513 for delivery in November at $3.10 a
pop. Whoever delivers them either must do so or pay a contract penalty.
The investor runs the risk that they aren't scarce and he might lose 50c
to a buck per chip. If they turn out to be scarce he'll make a serious
profit.

Of course not from me cuz I'd rather stick with the 80C51 :-)

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
From: krw on
On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:57:15 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul(a)hovnanian.com>
wrote:

>krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>
>[snip]
>>
>> Clueless, totally clueless.
>
>Well, you can sit in the dark in a state of depression because your party is
>out of power. The rest of the world carries on doing business.

You keep demonstrating your cluelessness.

>Look at the bright side: Mental health will be covered under Obamacare.

Are you competing for the DimBulb prize this week? You're getting there, but
DimBulb isn't going to let you have an easy time. Keep working.
From: krw on
On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:03:53 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:18:58 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 06:46:23 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:29:49 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>>>> b. A futures trading system for components. With hedge contracts and the
>>>>>>> whole nine yards.
>>>>>> Isn't that what disties do? They have the added advantage of being fronted by
>>>>>> some manufacturers.
>>>>>>
>>>>> They are mostly just a sales outlet for the manufacturers. Typically
>>>>> they don't do speculative buys.
>>>> They do. That's why they have "in stock" > 0, on some parts. With other more
>>>> expensive parts they're fronted (consignment, essentially).
>>>>
>>> Even large end customers have consignment deals.
>>
>> They don't have to be large. They keep some of our inventory, but that wasn't
>> my point.
>>
>>> But usually when a part
>>> becomes scarce the lights go out pretty much everywhere. Disties do have
>>> stock beyond others on occasion but it's mostly not enough to avoid
>>> running dry. BT, many times :-(
>>
>> They normally keep stock of the common parts, mostly passives, and some of
>> them *are* getting scarce. Yes, if a part is scarce they aren't likely to
>> have any either. ;-)
>>
>
>See, that's where my futures trading comes in. Some investor could buy
>the rights to 200,000 MSP430F5513 for delivery in November at $3.10 a
>pop. Whoever delivers them either must do so or pay a contract penalty.
>The investor runs the risk that they aren't scarce and he might lose 50c
>to a buck per chip. If they turn out to be scarce he'll make a serious
>profit.
>
>Of course not from me cuz I'd rather stick with the 80C51 :-)

Need some?
From: Joerg on
krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:03:53 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>

[...]

>>>
>> See, that's where my futures trading comes in. Some investor could buy
>> the rights to 200,000 MSP430F5513 for delivery in November at $3.10 a
>> pop. Whoever delivers them either must do so or pay a contract penalty.
>> The investor runs the risk that they aren't scarce and he might lose 50c
>> to a buck per chip. If they turn out to be scarce he'll make a serious
>> profit.
>>
>> Of course not from me cuz I'd rather stick with the 80C51 :-)
>
> Need some?


Thanks, my clients buy those. But there was never any shortage as far as
I can remember. The first one I used in the early 90's, and the whole
thang is still in production.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
From: krw on
On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:34:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:03:53 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>
>[...]
>
>>>>
>>> See, that's where my futures trading comes in. Some investor could buy
>>> the rights to 200,000 MSP430F5513 for delivery in November at $3.10 a
>>> pop. Whoever delivers them either must do so or pay a contract penalty.
>>> The investor runs the risk that they aren't scarce and he might lose 50c
>>> to a buck per chip. If they turn out to be scarce he'll make a serious
>>> profit.
>>>
>>> Of course not from me cuz I'd rather stick with the 80C51 :-)
>>
>> Need some?
>
>
>Thanks, my clients buy those. But there was never any shortage as far as
>I can remember. The first one I used in the early 90's, and the whole
>thang is still in production.

Seriously, I have some Intel 87C51FCs around here somewhere. Neat part, but
not good for much more than a hurt foot, anymore.