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From: Phillip Windell on 1 Jan 2010 00:42 You don't need 2008 Hyper-V on the Laptop for a Lab. You can leave the laptop completely unmolested,...just install VirtualPC on the Laptop. Then run whatever you want to run in VirtualPC. It can pretty much run any OS in a VM that you can throw at it,...including Linux and Unix variations. VirtualPC does not have "snapshots",...but it has "undo disks" which is a similar concept,...but it gives only one place to go back to rather than multiple points. Both VirtualPC and VirtualServer are free. They will not run on "Home Editions" of the OS,...it must be a Professional Edition. Windows7 already includes a newer version of VirtualPC right out of the box. -- Phillip Windell The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. ----------------------------------------------------- "Stuart" <Stuart(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CDD6C038-DBBF-4F1B-9713-A10A5DC37A57(a)microsoft.com... > Thanks everyone. > > In the end I've bought a Packard Bell laptop with 4GB of RAM and Athlon x2 > QL-65 Processors. I checked the AMD site and it is listed as X64 and AMD-V > compliant. Also the 70-680 Training manual arrived today and actually > stated > in the lab setup section that a pc with 4GB and dual cores would be able > to > host the VM's needed for the labwork. > > Now I can't decide whether I should charge ahead and install Server 2008 > R2 > with Hyper-V and host the W7 VM's in there, so as to also have access to > the > Server 2008 R2 while I'm doing 70-680. The moment I pass 70-680 I want to > start the core exams for MCITP-Enterprise Administrator, so it might be a > good idea. > > Thanks again, > > Stuart >
From: Phillip Windell on 2 Jan 2010 00:41 Sorry,...It appears it has to be Windows7 with VirtualPC,...the older VPC (XP, Vista) won't do a 64bit guest OS's. But I think VirtualServer would do it. Even though my latop is Vista Ult 64bit,...and VPC is the 64bit edition,....the CPU that is emulates is only 32bit. Currently I am trying to convert a VHD of 2008 downloaded from MS with VMWare's Standalone Converter,..then see if the VMWare Player can handle it. It is odd that VPC shows Server2008 as one of the Server "Types" yet it won't do 64bit. Was there ever a 32bit version of Server2008, anyone? -- Phillip Windell The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. ----------------------------------------------------- "Phillip Windell" <philwindell(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:edtB2VqiKHA.5568(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > You don't need 2008 Hyper-V on the Laptop for a Lab. You can leave the > laptop completely unmolested,...just install VirtualPC on the Laptop. > Then run whatever you want to run in VirtualPC. It can pretty much run > any OS in a VM that you can throw at it,...including Linux and Unix > variations. > > VirtualPC does not have "snapshots",...but it has "undo disks" which is a > similar concept,...but it gives only one place to go back to rather than > multiple points. > > Both VirtualPC and VirtualServer are free. > They will not run on "Home Editions" of the OS,...it must be a > Professional Edition. > > Windows7 already includes a newer version of VirtualPC right out of the > box. > > > -- > Phillip Windell > > The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or > Microsoft, > or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. > ----------------------------------------------------- > > > "Stuart" <Stuart(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:CDD6C038-DBBF-4F1B-9713-A10A5DC37A57(a)microsoft.com... >> Thanks everyone. >> >> In the end I've bought a Packard Bell laptop with 4GB of RAM and Athlon >> x2 >> QL-65 Processors. I checked the AMD site and it is listed as X64 and >> AMD-V >> compliant. Also the 70-680 Training manual arrived today and actually >> stated >> in the lab setup section that a pc with 4GB and dual cores would be able >> to >> host the VM's needed for the labwork. >> >> Now I can't decide whether I should charge ahead and install Server 2008 >> R2 >> with Hyper-V and host the W7 VM's in there, so as to also have access to >> the >> Server 2008 R2 while I'm doing 70-680. The moment I pass 70-680 I want >> to >> start the core exams for MCITP-Enterprise Administrator, so it might be a >> good idea. >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Stuart >> > >
From: Phillip Windell on 2 Jan 2010 01:31 "Phillip Windell" <philwindell(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%23eRS552iKHA.5524(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Sorry,...It appears it has to be Windows7 with VirtualPC,...the older VPC > (XP, Vista) won't do a 64bit guest OS's. But I think VirtualServer would > do it. Even though my latop is Vista Ult 64bit,...and VPC is the 64bit > edition,....the CPU that is emulates is only 32bit. > > Currently I am trying to convert a VHD of 2008 downloaded from MS with > VMWare's Standalone Converter,..then see if the VMWare Player can handle > it. > > It is odd that VPC shows Server2008 as one of the Server "Types" yet it > won't do 64bit. Was there ever a 32bit version of Server2008, anyone? Conversion to VMWare worked fine. Server2008 started right up in VMWare Player. the WMWare Tools weren't available to make it run smoother and improve features,...but it does run. The emulated CPU in VMPlayer is not virtualization capable so you can't run Hyper-V itself. -- Phillip Windell The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. -----------------------------------------------------
From: Stuart on 2 Jan 2010 09:40 Hi Phillip, Thanks for this. Just to clarify, are you saying that if I install say windows 7 Ultimate on my new laptop then I would be able to install and run Hyper-V on W2K8R2 inside Virtual PC on that laptop? PC World cancelled my order ( stating no stock ) so I'm back in the market for a new laptop to act as part of my lab for MCTS and MCITP Certs. So this information may well save me some money. Thanks, Stuart
From: Kerry Brown on 2 Jan 2010 14:13
That won't work. You can't enable the Hyper-V role in a virtual machine. AKAIK you can't install 64 bit guests in any version of Virtual PC. Also Hyper-V needs to be the only hypervisor running. -- Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ "Stuart" <Stuart(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7506E246-08B5-403C-B0AD-DBCEEE114873(a)microsoft.com... > Hi Phillip, > > Thanks for this. > > Just to clarify, are you saying that if I install say windows 7 Ultimate > on > my new laptop then I would be able to install and run Hyper-V on W2K8R2 > inside Virtual PC on that laptop? > > PC World cancelled my order ( stating no stock ) so I'm back in the market > for a new laptop to act as part of my lab for MCTS and MCITP Certs. So > this > information may well save me some money. > > Thanks, > Stuart |