From: krw on
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 12:27:28 -0700, D Yuniskis <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com>
wrote:

>Hi Jim,
>
>Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>>>> Biscotti. Pie would be easier! :> (I don't want to end up
>>>>>>> with 100 pounds of "not-quite-right" biscotti (which will
>>>>>>> need to be, um, "disposed of") before I get things right! :>
>>>>>> That sounds like a mighty flimsy excuse to me! ;-)
>>>>> Actually, I'm not fond of "sweets" (despite all the baking that
>>>>> I do -- biscotti coming out of the oven in 18 minutes; brownies
>>>>> go in after that).
>>>> The only time I have a sweet tooth, is when a tooth is infected. :(
>>> Ouch! :<
>>>
>>> I have to start rehashing some of my Rx's to try to replace the
>>> sugar with something artificial (or "natural" alternatives).
>>> Too many friends have "sugar problems" which makes baking
>>> more problematic. (I ave Rx's that avoid fats but avoiding
>>> *sugar* is tough! :> )
>>>
>>> I've managed to figure out how to make ice cream with Splenda
>>> (though I suspect that may be worse than sugar! :> ) but
>>> it is a lot of work trying to keep the texture right. Doing
>>> something like that with baked goods will probably be more
>>> challenging -- since you have to figure out how to do it
>>> *differently* for each Rx (whereas once you can make *one*
>>> type of ice cream, you can pretty much make them all!).
>>>
>>> I'll try to fix my gelato Rx next as it should be similar
>>> to the ice cream approach.
>>>
>>>>> However, the biscotti in question I *will* indulge in!
>>>>> (once I get the Rx correct) ;) *Then* my postage expenses
>>>>> will increase dramatically :-/
>>>> Wouldn't it be cheaper to fly? ;-)
>>> (sigh) *If* I can sort this out, I'll make a trip home and
>>> spend a few days baking. Easier than shipping the stuff
>>> cross country (especially this time of year as humidty
>>> levels rise).
>>>
>>> As a kid, we would buy ~100 pounds at a time (fill the
>>> trunk of a *real* "full size car") and dole them out
>>> to family (10+ pounds each). Always seemed like they
>>> were gone before you had your fill, though :<
>>
>> Frozen Yogurt makes a nice replacement for ice cream.
>
>I don't like yogurt. :> And, I like my ice cream *really*
>rich. E.g., heavy cream (I think it comes out being about
>50 (or 100?) calories per tablespoon. My butter pecan has
>a *stick* of butter in a quart of ice cream (you can
>hear your heart struggling while you eat it :< )

Yuck. There is also "no sugar added" ice creams that are pretty good. They
still have a lot of sugar, but it's a lot less than commie ice cream.

>> I avoid anything "artificially favored/sweetened". A friend died from
>> liver cancer at around age 50... he drank several liters of Diet Pepsi
>> _every_ day. I've always been suspicious.
>
>I think the stuff in Diet Pesi has been linked to prostate
>problems? (I can't keep track of the different sweeteners
>that these people use)

Power lines and cell phones are "linked" to brain cancer, too.

>I think all of the artificial sweeteners have "undocumented
>problems". :< I've been experimenting with Stevia lately
>but it has a taste of its own that is hard to mask -- so
>it's a bad choice for things like ice cream.
>
>All of them seem to have problems as sugar *replacements*.
>They don't have the same bulk (?) that sugar has so the
>textures always end up "wrong"...

Some of the sugar free chocolate isn't too bad. Don't eat too much though.
....or at least stay near a bathroom.
From: krw on
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:55:14 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>Jim Thompson wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:46:11 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Jim Thompson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 12:27:28 -0700, D Yuniskis
>> >> <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> [snip]
>> >> >
>> >> >All of them seem to have problems as sugar *replacements*.
>> >> >They don't have the same bulk (?) that sugar has so the
>> >> >textures always end up "wrong"...
>> >>
>> >> I have a random screen pop-up... "Just eat HALF!" ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> > Sure, but that's why you have two monitors...
>>
>> The devil made me do it... my wife just brought me an ice cream bar
>> :-)
>
>
> And you can blame each monitor for eating half. :)

Nah, he was looking at the other one.
From: krw on
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:17:05 -0700 (PDT), Rich Grise on Google groups
<richardgrise(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jun 4, 11:41�am, D Yuniskis <not.going.to...(a)seen.com> wrote:
>> ...
>> I have to start rehashing some of my Rx's to try to replace the
>> sugar with something artificial (or "natural" alternatives).
>
>Oh, ick! There's nothing wrong with real sugar. Heck, back when I was
>in elem.
>school,[1] our breakfast consisted of about 50% by weight of white,
>refined sugar.
>Sugar on the Wheaties, sugar on the grapefruit, sugar on the tomato
>slice; Sugar
>Smacks, Sugar Crisp, Sugar Corn Pops,Sugar Frosted Flakes ("They're
>GRRRREAT!!"), etc. When we got to school, we were ENERGIZED! >:->

If you're diabetic there certainly is. If you're not, it may not be forever.

>
From: dagmargoodboat on
On Jun 4, 1:01 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...(a)On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:

>
> My favorite (my wife had made it up for me several times)...
>
> http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/giada-de-laurentiis/holiday-biscot...

That's a rook--it's some crummy recipe for biscotti, not for a Giada
at all.

Disappointing. I was ready to bake up a batch of babes.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur
From: dagmargoodboat on
On Jun 4, 1:34 pm, D Yuniskis <not.going.to...(a)seen.com> wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
>
>
> Jim Thompson wrote:
> > On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 20:29:45 -0700, D Yuniskis
> > <not.going.to...(a)seen.com> wrote:
>
> >> Hi Michael,
>
> >> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> >>> D Yuniskis wrote:
> >>>> Biscotti.  Pie would be easier!  :>  (I don't want to end up
> >>>> with 100 pounds of "not-quite-right" biscotti (which will
> >>>> need to be, um, "disposed of") before I get things right!  :>
> >>> That sounds like a mighty flimsy excuse to me! ;-)
> >> Actually, I'm not fond of "sweets" (despite all the baking that
> >> I do -- biscotti coming out of the oven in 18 minutes; brownies
> >> go in after that).
>
> >> However, the biscotti in question I *will* indulge in!
> >> (once I get the Rx correct)  ;)  *Then* my postage expenses
> >> will increase dramatically  :-/
>
> > My favorite (my wife had made it up for me several times)...
>
> >http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/giada-de-laurentiis/holiday-biscot...
>
> That's what americans call "biscotti".  The ones I made last
> night are similar in theory -- though much plainer (nothing
> "added" besides almonds), *no* butter (I made them for a friend
> who's having some heart problems so extra fats are off the
> list -- else I would have made a nice, rich coffee cake!) and
> *lots* of amaretto (we go through a little over a gallon of
> amaretto yearly).

I make 'em with whole wheat flour, raisins, scant to no fat, and a
quarter or less of the usual sugar. Treats you can eat like actual
food, because they are, with vitamins, complete protein and
everything.

They're dang good too, but it's summer--too hot to bake!, at least
until I adjust.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur