From: JosephKK on
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:46:53 -0700, D Yuniskis <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com>
wrote:

>Hi Joseph,
>
>JosephKK wrote:
>> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 21:08:48 -0700, D Yuniskis <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jim,
>>>
>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 20:32:23 -0700, D Yuniskis
>>>> <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think most italian cookbooks are written with units of measure
>>>>> already "converted". Unless it's *in* Italian -- in which case,
>>>>> there might be an explanation of the *types* of ingredients
>>>>> common to "most Rx's" but probably not specifics of how they
>>>>> relate to "real world" units.
>>>>>
>>>>> (most of the Italians I know measure with their fingertips :> )
>>>> Of course. Most recipes are really ratiometric. Tomorrow, Giada's
>>>> recipe :-)
>>> Largely so -- though flavorings tend to see lots of bias.
>>> E.g., there is *a* shop here that makes this particular
>>> type of biscotti. But, they are very heavy on the
>>> vanilla flavor -- makingthem completely inedible
>>> (IMO -- which, of course, is the only one that matters to *me*!).
>>
>> Mmm. And i might love them, address of the shop? Do they ship?
>
>I have no idea as to address of the "local" shop. But,
>the *original* (that I grew up with) is at:
>
>http://www.fisichellis.com/
>
>They *do* deliver (though you might find it more economical
>to have some prime cut *steaks* shipped to you! :> )
>
>The large "biscuits" on the top tray (held by the man/woman
>in the photo) *furthest* from them are the items I seek.
>(assuming they still make them the same way)
>
>Should you chose to order anything from them, I doubt you
>can go wrong with *anything* they make! (though I'd surely
>not ship canolli any distance -- for obvious reasons)

Yikes. Coast to coast shipping. May try it anyway.
>
>>> It's been 30+ years since I've had any so I will be able to
>>> tailor the flavor to what *I* think is most appropriate
>>> (I suspect that if I were to buy some from the original
>>> bakery "back East" I would find them less than ideal -- so
>>> my efforts are still worthwhile).
>>>
>>> Just the wrong time of year to be experimenting in the kitchen.
>>> <frown> (Murphy, however, seems to always conspire to make
>>> things so :-/ )
>>
>> And it does not help that both you and your spouse are co-conspirators.
>
>No, vastly different tastes. :>
>
>(and, I am much more disciplined about these things ;-)

I am not talking about you conspiring with each other but about you each
conspiring with Murphy.
From: D Yuniskis on
Hi Joseph,

JosephKK wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:35:17 -0700, D Yuniskis <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com>
> wrote:
>
>> JosephKK wrote:
>>> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 15:42:21 -0700, D Yuniskis <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com>
>>>> I'll try to make some estimates based on the proportions
>>>> that *I* tend to use (e.g., this much flour, egg, butter,
>>>> sugar suggest *that* much vanilla...) and tweek it until
>>>> it seems right.
>>> If i did that i likely end up with several times the recipe amount as i
>>> rather like the flavor of vanilla.
>> I've found that making flavors more subtle results in a
>> more enjoyable treat. Requires you think more about what
>> you are eating -- instead of just wolfing it down :>
>>
>> This can be difficult with some flavorings (e.g., liqueurs)
>> but very rewarding when you get it right!
>>
>> (some herbs are similarly challenging to use with a "light touch")
>
> Subtlety has is place, sometimes the challenge is balancing strong
> flavors uniquely. Maybe i could send you some of my chili-garlic sauce.
> Probably have to freeze it to ship it, then again it should take it
> reasonably well. It is pretty hot though. Say 20k to 50k Scoville.

Yikes! No, I don't do "hot". Never really seemed like a
"flavor" ;-)
From: D Yuniskis on
Hi Joseph,

JosephKK wrote:
>>> Mmm. And i might love them, address of the shop? Do they ship?
>> I have no idea as to address of the "local" shop. But,
>> the *original* (that I grew up with) is at:
>>
>> http://www.fisichellis.com/
>>
>> They *do* deliver (though you might find it more economical
>> to have some prime cut *steaks* shipped to you! :> )
>>
>> The large "biscuits" on the top tray (held by the man/woman
>> in the photo) *furthest* from them are the items I seek.
>> (assuming they still make them the same way)
>>
>> Should you chose to order anything from them, I doubt you
>> can go wrong with *anything* they make! (though I'd surely
>> not ship canolli any distance -- for obvious reasons)
>
> Yikes. Coast to coast shipping. May try it anyway.

Yeah, things get expensive, quick! I wonder how well things
would hold up this time of year in transit. Between the heat
and humidity... :<
From: JosephKK on
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:08:57 -0700, D Yuniskis <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com>
wrote:

>Hi Joseph,
>
>JosephKK wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:35:17 -0700, D Yuniskis <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> JosephKK wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 15:42:21 -0700, D Yuniskis <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com>
>>>>> I'll try to make some estimates based on the proportions
>>>>> that *I* tend to use (e.g., this much flour, egg, butter,
>>>>> sugar suggest *that* much vanilla...) and tweek it until
>>>>> it seems right.
>>>> If i did that i likely end up with several times the recipe amount as i
>>>> rather like the flavor of vanilla.
>>> I've found that making flavors more subtle results in a
>>> more enjoyable treat. Requires you think more about what
>>> you are eating -- instead of just wolfing it down :>
>>>
>>> This can be difficult with some flavorings (e.g., liqueurs)
>>> but very rewarding when you get it right!
>>>
>>> (some herbs are similarly challenging to use with a "light touch")
>>
>> Subtlety has is place, sometimes the challenge is balancing strong
>> flavors uniquely. Maybe i could send you some of my chili-garlic sauce.
>> Probably have to freeze it to ship it, then again it should take it
>> reasonably well. It is pretty hot though. Say 20k to 50k Scoville.
>
>Yikes! No, I don't do "hot". Never really seemed like a
>"flavor" ;-)

It is largely an acquired taste, especially in the stated heat range and
above. Maybe some others here might like some if i get to meet them.
From: JosephKK on
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:30:09 -0700, D Yuniskis <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com>
wrote:

>Hi Joseph,
>
>JosephKK wrote:
>>>> Mmm. And i might love them, address of the shop? Do they ship?
>>> I have no idea as to address of the "local" shop. But,
>>> the *original* (that I grew up with) is at:
>>>
>>> http://www.fisichellis.com/
>>>
>>> They *do* deliver (though you might find it more economical
>>> to have some prime cut *steaks* shipped to you! :> )
>>>
>>> The large "biscuits" on the top tray (held by the man/woman
>>> in the photo) *furthest* from them are the items I seek.
>>> (assuming they still make them the same way)
>>>
>>> Should you chose to order anything from them, I doubt you
>>> can go wrong with *anything* they make! (though I'd surely
>>> not ship canolli any distance -- for obvious reasons)
>>
>> Yikes. Coast to coast shipping. May try it anyway.
>
>Yeah, things get expensive, quick! I wonder how well things
>would hold up this time of year in transit. Between the heat
>and humidity... :<

It is reasonable to freeze meats, fish and fowl to ship them. Freezing
does not work with cheese or good pastry. I have received cheese shipped
cross country (dry ice assisted) so it may be doable, just expensive.