From: D Yuniskis on
Hi,

I have a (baking) recipe that I am trying to decipher.
<sheepish grin>

Originally in Italian so all the measurement units are
European. Weights and liquid measures are easy to
translate.

*But*, some things tend to be "packaged" differently.

Point in question, what's a "package of vanilla"?
I'm guessing probably ~25mL liquid volume. But, I
have no idea if vanilla is used as dried *beans*
or *extract*, etc. (nor if that 25mL is even the
right figure!)

Could someone on the other side of the pond clarify
this? Also, if this is vanilla *extract*, is it
safe to assume it is cut with alcohol? And, if so,
what percent, by volume (obviously, getting the
right amount of flavoring is critical :> )

I chuckle as I once was on the other side of this
problem -- gave a european friend a recipe which
had baker's chocolate measured in units of "squares".
She later complained that the Rx turned out *horribly*...
then asked me what a "square" was :-/

Thanks!
--don
From: Spehro Pefhany on
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 12:43:10 -0700, D Yuniskis
<not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have a (baking) recipe that I am trying to decipher.
><sheepish grin>
>
>Originally in Italian so all the measurement units are
>European. Weights and liquid measures are easy to
>translate.
>
>*But*, some things tend to be "packaged" differently.
>
>Point in question, what's a "package of vanilla"?
>I'm guessing probably ~25mL liquid volume. But, I
>have no idea if vanilla is used as dried *beans*
>or *extract*, etc. (nor if that 25mL is even the
>right figure!)

There's also "vanilla sugar"-- mostly sugar with
vanilla flavor.

>Could someone on the other side of the pond clarify
>this? Also, if this is vanilla *extract*, is it
>safe to assume it is cut with alcohol? And, if so,
>what percent, by volume (obviously, getting the
>right amount of flavoring is critical :> )
>
>I chuckle as I once was on the other side of this
>problem -- gave a european friend a recipe which
>had baker's chocolate measured in units of "squares".
>She later complained that the Rx turned out *horribly*...
>then asked me what a "square" was :-/
>
>Thanks!
>--don

From: OBones on
D Yuniskis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a (baking) recipe that I am trying to decipher.
> <sheepish grin>
>
> Originally in Italian so all the measurement units are
> European. Weights and liquid measures are easy to
> translate.
>
> *But*, some things tend to be "packaged" differently.
>
> Point in question, what's a "package of vanilla"?
> I'm guessing probably ~25mL liquid volume. But, I
> have no idea if vanilla is used as dried *beans*
> or *extract*, etc. (nor if that 25mL is even the
> right figure!)

If it's the same as in France, which I suspect it is, then you would be
looking a this:

http://www.vahine.fr/tous-nos-produits/sucre-vanille-de-madagascar/index.html

Vanilla flavored sugar in a package, that is about 7.5g
Don't know if you have that in the US though.
From: D Yuniskis on
Hi Spehro,

Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 12:43:10 -0700, D Yuniskis
> <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote:
>
>> Originally in Italian so all the measurement units are
>> European. Weights and liquid measures are easy to
>> translate.
>>
>> Point in question, what's a "package of vanilla"?
>> I'm guessing probably ~25mL liquid volume. But, I
>> have no idea if vanilla is used as dried *beans*
>> or *extract*, etc. (nor if that 25mL is even the
>> right figure!)

Grrrr.... s/25/15/g

(though I would have thought 10mL a better "intensity" :< )

> There's also "vanilla sugar"-- mostly sugar with
> vanilla flavor.

Hmmm... is this how vanilla is typically introduced to a Rx?
I.e., do they not use (liquid) vanilla extract?

I would assume it would be harder to control the sweetness
if you had to introduce sugar every time you introduced a certain
amount of vanilla flavor (e.g., using extract, the alcohol
boils off).

And, this still leaves the question of how to equate
that to "liquid measure" :<

(sigh) I guess I'll just have to plan one interation
just to get the flavoring right and then work on the
rest of the Rx from there...

<frown>
From: D Yuniskis on
OBones wrote:
> If it's the same as in France, which I suspect it is, then you would be
> looking a this:
>
> http://www.vahine.fr/tous-nos-produits/sucre-vanille-de-madagascar/index.html
>
> Vanilla flavored sugar in a package, that is about 7.5g

I assume that's primarily the weight of the *sugar*. (1.5t?)

The question is then, how much vanilla to add to 7.5G of sugar
to get the same "flavor" :<

> Don't know if you have that in the US though.

I suspect I could probably find it. But, I'd want to
come up with a more "portable" recipe, anyway, so that
would just give me something to compare (empirically)
against (way too much effort there! :> )

I'll try to make some estimates based on the proportions
that *I* tend to use (e.g., this much flour, egg, butter,
sugar suggest *that* much vanilla...) and tweek it until
it seems right.

Thanks!