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From: John McWilliams on 18 Dec 2009 15:06 nospam wrote: > In article <hggi2p$u0n$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, John McWilliams > <jpmcw(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >>> Even better, it builds a list of operations to be done to create an >>> output file based on the RAW image; the RAW file itself is never touched. >> I believe that's the case with all RAW processors; the file itself is >> not altered; only the instructions on how to process out a JPEG, TIFF, >> PSD file are changed. > > many raw processors take the raw and output a jpeg, tiff, etc. > > the advantage of lightroom and aperture is that they do that on the fly > and you can go back and make a change without needing to make a whole > new file. > > here's an example: > > with a traditional raw processor, you would take the raw, make a jpeg > or tiff, and then maybe open it in photoshop and retouch it, crop it, > remove a tree, etc. if you decide that the white balance is not quite > right or you want a different cropping, you basically have to start all > over again, from scratch. if you want multiple versions, you need to > have multiple files, and if you later make a change to one that you > want in the rest you have to somehow re-apply it to each one (and hope > that it's the same if it's a retouching operation). > > with non-destructive editing, you could go back and adjust the white > balance, exposure, etc., without affecting the retouching or cropping. > you can change the crop at any time. multiple versions are nothing more > than a different set of instructions which take up a few kilobytes > rather than many megabytes. you can even copy/paste adjustments from > one image to another (or set of images). I am well aware of LR's capabilities and processes, having been with it since the .08 beta days or thereabouts. Aperture I know a bit about, mostly from reading others' experiences. My point was that, afaik, no RAW processor destroys or alters the RAW data. You maintain that iPhoto makes it hard to revert to the RAW after the initial edit. I am not contradicting that. -- john mcwilliams -- john mcwilliams
From: AES on 18 Dec 2009 15:30 In article <isw-838A4D.09445618122009@[216.168.3.50]>, isw <isw(a)witzend.com> wrote: > How do you handle files that belong in more than one place? Say, a photo > of both Churchill and Roosevelt, when you have folder structures > dedicated to both? > > Isaac A valid question -- but one that just doesn't occur a lot. If I wanted a photo or other file in both places, I might just put a copy in both places (which I might do even if I used iPhoto). If I had a folder structure People >> Subfolders for Individual Names (which in fact I do), I'd likely make an iView catalog that cataloged all the photos located in all the individual name subfolders. This catalog would be named ' * People Photos' so it would float to the top of the People folder's list of contents, and could be refreshed/updated instantly by just dragging the top level People folder onto it. This People folder is located in Documents and has been dragged into the Finder sidebar. Thus, I can open (or dump something into) any individual name subfolder instantly from within any other folder by just using spring-loading on the People folder link in the sidebar. One basic (and invaluable) benefit: All navigation (and organizing) is done only in the Finder, which just gets better and better for this. Never have to learn (and remember between uses) the nonstandard (and often irrelevant, and changing) navigation gimmicks that Apple has put into iPhoto, and the different ones it's put into itunes.
From: AES on 18 Dec 2009 15:32 In article <isw-8B61D9.09513918122009@[216.168.3.50]>, isw <isw(a)witzend.com> wrote: > > > Note that I originally said that my objection concerned searching on the > > hard disk and that iTunes made such a search easier by naming its files > > according to artist and album name. > How does one apply that to seminars or lectures or lecture series, where you might in fact want to name some of the files by the speaker; some by the topic; some by the series?
From: AES on 18 Dec 2009 15:48 In article <isw-EF27FC.10092618122009@[216.168.3.50]>, isw <isw(a)witzend.com> wrote: > > I have a feeling that Apple did not view individuals who spend a lot of > their time looking through libraries *or* library catalogs as their main > target for iPhoto. > > Isaac Absolutely agree with that. That's the sad part of the situation, for iPhoto and iTunes. Sad when a company that once developed superb hardware and software for people who read, and know what a library is, now perceive their primary customer base to be people who don't. (Not to mention that a primary design criterion for some of that software becomes the enforcement of DRM.) Anyone on this group old enough to remember when Steve Jobs, as chairman of Apple Computer, recruited John Sculley from Pepsi to Apple, reputedly by asking him: "Do you want a chance to change the world? -- or do you want to spend the rest of your life selling sugared water?"
From: Tom Stiller on 18 Dec 2009 15:56
In article <siegman-30803F.12472818122009(a)news.stanford.edu>, AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote: > In article <isw-EF27FC.10092618122009@[216.168.3.50]>, > isw <isw(a)witzend.com> wrote: > > > > > I have a feeling that Apple did not view individuals who spend a lot of > > their time looking through libraries *or* library catalogs as their main > > target for iPhoto. > > > > Isaac > > Absolutely agree with that. That's the sad part of the situation, for > iPhoto and iTunes. Sad when a company that once developed superb > hardware and software for people who read, and know what a library is, > now perceive their primary customer base to be people who don't. Now they just build "a computer for the rest of us." > > (Not to mention that a primary design criterion for some of that > software becomes the enforcement of DRM.) > > Anyone on this group old enough to remember when Steve Jobs, as chairman > of Apple Computer, recruited John Sculley from Pepsi to Apple, reputedly > by asking him: > > "Do you want a chance to change the world? -- or do you want > to spend the rest of your life selling sugared water?" -- Tom Stiller PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF |