What is the meaning of life for the atheist
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From: Mark Edwards on 31 Jul 2010 07:32 No cluons were harmed when pete wrote: >It violates The Law Of Dodge City: "survival of the Festus". IFYPFY. Mark Edwards -- Proof of Sanity Forged Upon Request
From: SkyEyes on 31 Jul 2010 14:17 On Jul 30, 4:55 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am anti-abortion. For me it's not about spirituality. > > Abortion is not only murder (causing the death of an innocent) by > human law, it is a crime against the species. And slavery *isn't*? Because, face it, that's what forcing a woman to have a child she does not want amounts to. In addition, a State that controls human reproduction is, by definition, a large, intrusive government. I'm not even going to go into the fact that the earth is already overpopulated, and that if every unwanted fetus were to be born, it would simply hasten the times that Thomas Malthus described so vividly. There is no law or mechanism that makes humans immune from those horrors. Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 BAAWA Knight EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding skyeyes nine at cox dot net
From: Virgil on 31 Jul 2010 16:19 nuny(a)bid.nes wrote: > > Abortion is not only murder (causing the death of an innocent) by > human law, it is a crime against the species. Murder requires the death of a human, and in law a fetus is not human until born. Furthermore, the doctrine of original sin does not allow a fetus to be innocent, at least not until it has been born and baptized. And abortion is no crime against any species until it becomes frequent enough to threaten that species continued existence. So 'hey nuny nuny' is wrong on all counts.
From: Excognito on 31 Jul 2010 17:08 On 31 July, 19:17, SkyEyes <skyey...(a)cox.net> wrote: > On Jul 30, 4:55 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > I am anti-abortion. For me it's not about spirituality. > > > Abortion is not only murder (causing the death of an innocent) by > > human law, it is a crime against the species. > > And slavery *isn't*? Because, face it, that's what forcing a woman to > have a child she does not want amounts to. An interesting point of view. What about when, say, a couple of months after young one arrives, I realize the true impact of having a child on my 'freedom'? The state now insists that I can't just drop it into the garbage can, even though I've discovered I don't want it any more. Social norms (in my neck of the woods, at least) impose their own pressures to keep it instead of dumping it on somebody's doorstep. Is this slavery as well?
From: Excognito on 31 Jul 2010 17:09
On 31 July, 21:19, Virgil <Vir...(a)home.esc> wrote: > n...(a)bid.nes wrote: > > > Abortion is not only murder (causing the death of an innocent) by > > human law, it is a crime against the species. > > Murder requires the death of a human, and in law a fetus is not human > until born. > So 'hey nuny nuny' is wrong on all counts. I think you may be mistaken. http://www.ncsl.org/default.aspx?tabid=14386 eg, California Cal. Penal Code § 187 (a) defines murder as the unlawful killing of a human being or a fetus with malice aforethought. |