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From: James Jolley on 19 Apr 2010 08:52 On 2010-04-19 13:21:48 +0100, real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) said: > James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote: > >> This has probably been done to death but what actually makes a good >> browser? Many here prefer one over another, whether it be Safari or >> Firefox or some other. My views have already been stated and I won't >> bother boring you all again because I know my views here aren't >> generally respected. > > I don't think anyone could object to your offering your opinions on web > browsers, but I certainly don't enjoy reading highly negative or hostile > remarks about other members of the group, or indeed about me. The only reason why I am slightly hostile towards you is because all you seem to do here is argue the toss with folks. It comes over smug to be honest, but don't worry about it.
From: James Jolley on 19 Apr 2010 08:53 On 2010-04-19 13:21:50 +0100, Ric <infobubble(a)gmail.com> said: > On Apr 19, 1:03�pm, James Jolley <jrjol...(a)me.com> wrote: >> This has probably been done to death but what actually makes a good >> browser? Many here prefer one over another, whether it be Safari or >> Firefox or some other. My views have already been stated and I won't >> bother boring you all again because I know my views here aren't >> generally respected. >> >> I only bring it up because of Jamie's remarks that he didn't use Safari >> in the hacking thread. >> >> Best >> >> James- > > I'd say I want security, speed, keychain support and good font > rendering. Anything else a bonus. I use Chrome. Can see why. I, again, can't use chrome because it's not working with VO at this time. This is unusual as it's meant to use webkit isn't it? Best -James-
From: Jim on 19 Apr 2010 08:57 On 2010-04-19, James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote: > On 2010-04-19 13:21:50 +0100, Ric <infobubble(a)gmail.com> said: >>> >>> I only bring it up because of Jamie's remarks that he didn't use Safari >>> in the hacking thread. >>> >>> Best >>> >>> James- >> >> I'd say I want security, speed, keychain support and good font >> rendering. Anything else a bonus. I use Chrome. > > Can see why. I, again, can't use chrome because it's not working with > VO at this time. This is unusual as it's meant to use webkit isn't it? I'm guessing, but I don't think VO links to WebKit as such, but to the browser itself. Jim -- Twitter:@GreyAreaUK "[The MP4-12C] will be fitted with all manner of pointlessly shiny buttons that light up and a switch that says 'sport mode' that isn't connected to anything." The Daily Mash.
From: James Jolley on 19 Apr 2010 08:59 On 2010-04-19 13:28:47 +0100, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> said: > On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:03:54 +0100, James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> > wrote: > >> This has probably been done to death but what actually makes a good >> browser? Many here prefer one over another, whether it be Safari or >> Firefox or some other. My views have already been stated and I won't >> bother boring you all again because I know my views here aren't >> generally respected. >> >> I only bring it up because of Jamie's remarks that he didn't use Safari >> in the hacking thread. > > This allows me to give the reason I don't use Safari - it's the UI > features. On Firefox, I can use two specific plugins to put the UI the > way I want. > > 1) I *hate* having my current tab overwritten by eg using the search > bar to search for associated info to whatever I'm reading. So I use > Tab Mix Plus, to force a new tab to open any time I type in the > address bar and go, or the search bar and go, or left-click on a > bookmark, or middle-click on a link. Sounds like a good extension. > > 2) I usually have a lot of tabs open, so I like a vertical column of > tabs rather than horizontal across the top. Tree Style Tabs does this > nicely, and also allows grouping of tabs which is a bonus. I have a lot open, but VoiceOver seems to throw flids every time I close one, I get "Safari Busy" for a few seconds. I'm suspecting this is VoiceOver refreshing the Web object. > > I also greatly appreciate Adblock Plus. Can see why. > > On the downside for Firefox > > 1) It doesn't use the Keychain to store passwords That I didn't know. That's a shame really as I love the keychain and the autofiller in safari. > > 2) Some of the edit fields don't do the right thing when you > left-click or right-click on them That's been around for quite some time I think. > > 3) when I've got a load of tabs open (currently 32) then things can > get a little crunchy - although this only seems to affect Flash media, > so I suspect it's down to the Flash plugin being a bit cra[ at > multithreading or multi-instancing or however it handles things. Probably. > > Safari does a lot better with multiple pages/tabs of Flash content, so > very very occasionally I'll use it when I need that. > > So that's pretty minor downsides vs upsides. > > Cheers - Jaimie Thanks for the insite.
From: James Jolley on 19 Apr 2010 09:01
On 2010-04-19 13:57:49 +0100, Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> said: > On 2010-04-19, James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote: >> On 2010-04-19 13:21:50 +0100, Ric <infobubble(a)gmail.com> said: >>>> >>>> I only bring it up because of Jamie's remarks that he didn't use Safari >>>> in the hacking thread. >>>> >>>> Best >>>> >>>> James- >>> >>> I'd say I want security, speed, keychain support and good font >>> rendering. Anything else a bonus. I use Chrome. >> >> Can see why. I, again, can't use chrome because it's not working with >> VO at this time. This is unusual as it's meant to use webkit isn't it? > > I'm guessing, but I don't think VO links to WebKit as such, but to the > browser itself. > > Jim Possible I suppose. It's interesting that VO reads other HTML type areas well enough, software update release notes - that kind of thing. |