From: James Jolley on
This has probably been done to death but what actually makes a good
browser? Many here prefer one over another, whether it be Safari or
Firefox or some other. My views have already been stated and I won't
bother boring you all again because I know my views here aren't
generally respected.

I only bring it up because of Jamie's remarks that he didn't use Safari
in the hacking thread.

Best

James-

From: Jim on
On 2010-04-19, James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote:
> This has probably been done to death but what actually makes a good
> browser? Many here prefer one over another, whether it be Safari or
> Firefox or some other. My views have already been stated and I won't
> bother boring you all again because I know my views here aren't
> generally respected.

I don't think that's generally true, but it would help if you could leave
Rowland alone. I know the guy's fantastically annoying but baiting him
doesn't help. Just ignore him (and yes, I know, bit rich coming from me).

> I only bring it up because of Jamie's remarks that he didn't use Safari
> in the hacking thread.

I tend to stick to Safari. Occasionally I'll use Firefox if a website is
playing hard to get.

I don't use Firefox fulltime because...well, I'm not sure, actually. The
last time I used it fulltime it felt heavy and bloated, but that was a major
version ago at least.

I guess I'm just used to Safari and it does 99.9% of what I want.

Jim
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From: D.M. Procida on
James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote:

> This has probably been done to death but what actually makes a good
> browser? Many here prefer one over another, whether it be Safari or
> Firefox or some other. My views have already been stated and I won't
> bother boring you all again because I know my views here aren't
> generally respected.

I don't think anyone could object to your offering your opinions on web
browsers, but I certainly don't enjoy reading highly negative or hostile
remarks about other members of the group, or indeed about me.

Daniele
From: Ric on
On Apr 19, 1:03 pm, James Jolley <jrjol...(a)me.com> wrote:
> This has probably been done to death but what actually makes a good
> browser? Many here prefer one over another, whether it be Safari or
> Firefox or some other. My views have already been stated and I won't
> bother boring you all again because I know my views here aren't
> generally respected.
>
> I only bring it up because of Jamie's remarks that he didn't use Safari
> in the hacking thread.
>
> Best
>
> James-

I'd say I want security, speed, keychain support and good font
rendering. Anything else a bonus. I use Chrome.
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:03:54 +0100, James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com>
wrote:

>This has probably been done to death but what actually makes a good
>browser? Many here prefer one over another, whether it be Safari or
>Firefox or some other. My views have already been stated and I won't
>bother boring you all again because I know my views here aren't
>generally respected.
>
>I only bring it up because of Jamie's remarks that he didn't use Safari
>in the hacking thread.

This allows me to give the reason I don't use Safari - it's the UI
features. On Firefox, I can use two specific plugins to put the UI the
way I want.

1) I *hate* having my current tab overwritten by eg using the search
bar to search for associated info to whatever I'm reading. So I use
Tab Mix Plus, to force a new tab to open any time I type in the
address bar and go, or the search bar and go, or left-click on a
bookmark, or middle-click on a link.

2) I usually have a lot of tabs open, so I like a vertical column of
tabs rather than horizontal across the top. Tree Style Tabs does this
nicely, and also allows grouping of tabs which is a bonus.

I also greatly appreciate Adblock Plus.

On the downside for Firefox

1) It doesn't use the Keychain to store passwords

2) Some of the edit fields don't do the right thing when you
left-click or right-click on them

3) when I've got a load of tabs open (currently 32) then things can
get a little crunchy - although this only seems to affect Flash media,
so I suspect it's down to the Flash plugin being a bit cra[ at
multithreading or multi-instancing or however it handles things.

Safari does a lot better with multiple pages/tabs of Flash content, so
very very occasionally I'll use it when I need that.

So that's pretty minor downsides vs upsides.

Cheers - Jaimie
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