Where is the backup utility for Outlook 2010?
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From: LaModiste on 7 May 2010 02:36 On May 6, 2:10 pm, jimmy fallon <jimmyfal...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > Just curious, where is the backup command or download for it? > > And, why isn't this feature included in Outlook for the last DECADE? > It seems to me that it's the single most important feature to have. > Anyone? > > jf The old MS-distributed Outlook backup utility does not work with Outlook 2010. It installs OK and then shows properly in the add-in section of the ribbon; however, the backup does not initiate as specified (date and time). I tried to get it to work for a long time. I've setup a workaround using a batch file-- "copy C:\users\katherine\appdata\local\microsoft\outlook\outlook.pst G: \MSObackup /D /Y" It copies the outlook.pst file to a special folder on another partition. The batch file has been setup to run every morning at 10:00am (whether computer is in sleep mode ot not) using the Win 7 Task Scheduler. End result is identical to the old Outlook Backup utility. LaModiste
From: Gordon on 7 May 2010 02:52 "jimmy fallon" <jimmyfallon(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:423E3A90-8536-4C35-BDBF-437F92E06E26(a)microsoft.com... > You all are truly living in outer space. Of course there should be a > backup > command for Outlook, Why? As I said the VAST majority of Outlook usage occurs in a CORPORATE environment, using Exchange Server where the mailboxes and the GAL etc etc are all backed up daily from the server. Does that scenario apply to Quickbooks? To Quicken? No it doesn't. Small business accounting packages tend to be run on stand-alone machines without server backup functions. THAT'S why those types of applications DO have a backup function and Outlook doesn't. Live with it.
From: jimmy fallon on 7 May 2010 07:41 Kevryl! I love you man! YOU GET IT! And everyone else in here reminds me of the reason every version of Windows before Windows 7 was so inferior. They have come so far in Win 7, if MS reverts back to the metality that the replies to this simple post comprise, then Apple share will climb, not because they are easier to use but because they have been TOLD they're easier to use. And people will do ANYTHING to make there computer lives easier! There will always be computers for people who know how to use them, but if you can't make computers easier for the rest of the world, you're not doing your job MS. Workarounds are unacceptable. And Outlook is used by a LOT of home users to manage their lives and sync with there phones. And syncing to the cloud will be a great addition to that when Win 7 phone (finally) comes out, but I don't want my stuff on the cloud I want ONE thing on my memory stick, and I want it to be a 2 step process, the way it has been for every single version of Outlook, up until now. A backup utility for Outlook is SO SO SO SO SO, NOT too much to expect. jf "Gordon" wrote: > > "jimmy fallon" <jimmyfallon(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:423E3A90-8536-4C35-BDBF-437F92E06E26(a)microsoft.com... > > You all are truly living in outer space. Of course there should be a > > backup > > command for Outlook, > > Why? As I said the VAST majority of Outlook usage occurs in a CORPORATE > environment, using Exchange Server where the mailboxes and the GAL etc etc > are all backed up daily from the server. > Does that scenario apply to Quickbooks? To Quicken? No it doesn't. Small > business accounting packages tend to be run on stand-alone machines without > server backup functions. THAT'S why those types of applications DO have a > backup function and Outlook doesn't. > Live with it. > > . >
From: LVTravel on 7 May 2010 07:42 "jimmy fallon" <jimmyfallon(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F2CF0312-5C93-4271-8EF9-87F8774FAF13(a)microsoft.com... > For me it's a breeze. But I teach HUNDREDS of people how to use computers, > for a living. And the people I teach are afraid of their computers. And > there > are a LOT of them. And they are afraid to ask for help because of answers > like that. They feel stupid. > Have you ever tried to teach someone who doesn't know as much as you do, > how > to do your simple 3 steps? I'm guessing your the type that runs out of > patience with those folks and calls them morons behind their backs. > > Me: Mrs. johnson, why don't you just locate your .pst file? > Mrs. Johnson: what's a pst file? > Me: it's the file that contains all of your Outlook information. > Mrs. Johnson: how am I supposed to know that? > Me: oh, well all you have to do is call microsoft on the phone and ask > them > whatever you need to know, and after 15 minutes of talking to someone you > can't understand they will tell you to just copy and paste your .pst file > after locating it in the C:\Users\Jimmy\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook > directory > Mrs. johnson: what's a directory? > > It's funny you guys think these people are idiots, and I know who the > idiot > really is. The one who decided that there should not be a "File, Backup" > command in Outlook 2010. > > jf > > > > "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote: > >> The only backup I have ever needed was a simple three step process. >> >> 1. Locate your .pst file >> 2. Copy >> 3. Paste in your favorite location. >> >> How hard can it be? >> >> -- >> Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] >> >> Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. >> ALWAYS post your Outlook version. >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 >> >> >> After furious head scratching, jimmy fallon asked: >> >> | Answers like the first 2 are the reason some people hate computers. >> | >> | The ability to click on "File, backup" should NOT be a luxury, it >> | should be standard. >> | >> | Sure I can hunt around for my .pst file, but this is 2010, I >> | shouldn't have to. I should be able to click on "file, backup" >> | because, if everything in the world were to explode tomorrow, I would >> | still be happy if I had my Outlook file. >> | >> | And for the third reply, no, the free downloadable utility (from >> | microsoft.com) that was available for every single version of Outlook >> | I have ever used is NOT available for 2010, and the previous versions >> | do not work. >> | >> | Anyone else have a good answer? Developers or like minded thinkers >> | need not apply... >> | >> | jf I also teach people who know nothing about computers. If they "are afraid of their computers" it is up to the educator to assist them in learning. Your original post said nothing about why, with Outlook for a new beginner, you should be able.... You ranted about "And, why isn't this feature included in Outlook for the last DECADE?" Heck you even shouted when trying to seek an answer to a question or problem that no one on this newsgroup could answer. (No one here works for or has any influence with Microsoft. This is a peer to peer newsgroup only supported by MS servers. As a computer instructor you should know that also.) Milly and I, as well as Gordon and LD5SZRA attempted to give workarounds. If you were that good of an instructor to your students you would explain what Gordon was attempting to get across. You could explain to them how to create a batch file (this is one of the first things I teach my students after I get them comfortable with navigating through the OS and the basics of a program.) If you are teaching Outlook to individual users, it should also be included how to backup the data file. Yes, other data base programs have backup built in but unless the student is told how to use the backup facility they won't use it either.
From: Bob I on 7 May 2010 08:20
Just because it isn't accomplished using the method you want, doesn't mean it isn't happening. Please read the following http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/features/backup-and-restore.aspx jimmy fallon wrote: > Kevryl! I love you man! YOU GET IT! And everyone else in here reminds me of > the reason every version of Windows before Windows 7 was so inferior. They > have come so far in Win 7, if MS reverts back to the metality that the > replies to this simple post comprise, then Apple share will climb, not > because they are easier to use but because they have been TOLD they're easier > to use. And people will do ANYTHING to make there computer lives easier! > > There will always be computers for people who know how to use them, but if > you can't make computers easier for the rest of the world, you're not doing > your job MS. > |