From: Tom Willett on 7 May 2010 08:44 "jimmy fallon" <jimmyfallon(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F2CF0312-5C93-4271-8EF9-87F8774FAF13(a)microsoft.com... : For me it's a breeze. But I teach HUNDREDS of people how to use computers, : for a living. And the people I teach are afraid of their computers. And there : are a LOT of them. And they are afraid to ask for help because of answers : like that. They feel stupid. Then you are a lousy teacher.
From: Steve Rindsberg on 7 May 2010 11:44 In article <utrIl#d7KHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, Bob I wrote: > Just because it isn't accomplished using the method you want, doesn't > mean it isn't happening. > > Please read the following > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/features/backup-and-restore.aspx But is it smart enough to find your Outlook PST or do you once again need to know where Outlook has squirreled it away? To say nothing of how you find a *.PST file when Windows defaults to *hiding* the .PST extension from you and in some versions, at least, won't even cough it up during a search for *.PST when the extension's hidden? I have to agree with Jimmy. I've been using computers happily enough since the early 80s. I've written software for most of that time, either for my own use and commercially and can navigate the file system in Windows, MSDOS, Mac and *nix more or less proficiently. I've just begun using Outlook in the last few months and though its great in many respects, I've found it to be the most user-hostile app I've ever done battle with when it comes to backing up and moving its files around, to say nothing of getting it to put the fool things where *I* want them to go today, not where it thinks I need to put them. It really does want a Backup or at the very least, a simple File, Save As command. Yes, there's one of the latter on the menu. It lights up and grays out according to no pattern that I've yet discerned. I'm sure this will all be revealed in time too. But why should it not be simple?
From: Zaidy036 on 7 May 2010 17:30 In article <c27e39a9-16e7-4ccf-b24d-98475f65557b(a)i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Kateri(a)msn.com says... > > On May 6, 2:10�pm, jimmy fallon > <jimmyfal...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > Just curious, where is the backup command or download for it? > > > > And, why isn't this feature included in Outlook for the last DECADE? > > It seems to me that it's the single most important feature to have. > > Anyone? > > > > jf > > The old MS-distributed Outlook backup utility does not work with > Outlook 2010. It installs OK and then shows properly in the add-in > section of the ribbon; however, the backup does not initiate as > specified (date and time). I tried to get it to work for a long time. > > I've setup a workaround using a batch file-- > > "copy C:\users\katherine\appdata\local\microsoft\outlook\outlook.pst G: > \MSObackup /D /Y" It copies the outlook.pst file to a special folder > on another partition. The batch file has been setup to run every > morning at 10:00am (whether computer is in sleep mode ot not) using > the Win 7 Task Scheduler. End result is identical to the old Outlook > Backup utility. > > LaModiste For a free backup program to any media look at Karen's Replicator: http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp For a free fast search program look at Everything: http://www.voidtools.com/ Use Everything to find the file(s) to backup and the Replicator to do the job. Replicator may be run manually or on a set schedule.
From: curlysir on 7 May 2010 18:00 "jimmy fallon" wrote: > Just curious, where is the backup command or download for it? > > And, why isn't this feature included in Outlook for the last DECADE? > It seems to me that it's the single most important feature to have. > Anyone? > > jf I agree 100% with you. I have the backup set to automatically backup daily. If this feature is not available I will not install Outlook 2010 at this time. Yes I know where the PST file is located and could back up manually but why should I have too!!!
From: LVTravel on 7 May 2010 22:11
"Steve Rindsberg" <abuse(a)localhost.com> wrote in message news:VA.00005918.1759f193(a)localhost.com... > In article <utrIl#d7KHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, Bob I wrote: >> Just because it isn't accomplished using the method you want, doesn't >> mean it isn't happening. >> >> Please read the following >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/features/backup-and-restore.aspx > > But is it smart enough to find your Outlook PST or do you once again need > to know > where Outlook has squirreled it away? > > To say nothing of how you find a *.PST file when Windows defaults to > *hiding* the > PST extension from you and in some versions, at least, won't even cough it > up > during a search for *.PST when the extension's hidden? > > I have to agree with Jimmy. I've been using computers happily enough > since the > early 80s. I've written software for most of that time, either for my own > use and > commercially and can navigate the file system in Windows, MSDOS, Mac and > *nix more > or less proficiently. I've just begun using Outlook in the last few > months and > though its great in many respects, I've found it to be the most > user-hostile app > I've ever done battle with when it comes to backing up and moving its > files > around, to say nothing of getting it to put the fool things where *I* want > them to > go today, not where it thinks I need to put them. > > It really does want a Backup or at the very least, a simple File, Save As > command. > > Yes, there's one of the latter on the menu. It lights up and grays out > according > to no pattern that I've yet discerned. I'm sure this will all be revealed > in time > too. But why should it not be simple? > > > Steve, finding the location of the .pst file is easy if you are using Outlook 2007 or 2010 by clicking on File, Data File Management. In the window that opens you will see Outlook or Outlook.pst in the Personal Folder section and it will tell you exactly where the Outlook file is secured. Now as Windows won't normally allow you to copy an open file, and Outlook.pst is always open when Outlook is running, you can not back it up or copy it yet. Note the location and then copy the file after closing Outlook. Outlook also has an export function lower down in the file menu. It can export many different types of files for import into other programs or even creating a file for importing into Outlook. The save as function is for saving only specific parts of the Outlook data such as a calendar object or a note object, not the entire file. |