From: Jim Thompson on
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:14:10 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>Jim Thompson wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:39:51 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
>> <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
>>> message news:hhnkr556m5pik6jrnhtg8io8950mk99mvu(a)4ax.com...
>>>> It _will_ be painful to walk away from a country that my ancestors
>>>> settled, beginning 400+ years ago (Jamestown)... but I can if
>>>> pushed... leave the suckers with only themselves to suck upon :-)
>>> You can bet Obama is going to try to extend his reach internationally if at
>>> all possible. :-)
>>
>> He's already started. But it only applies if you're within the US and
>> receiving income from without. Thus a confiscatory tax is simply
>> avoided by moving out.
>>
>
>Ahm, I think you are wrong on that one. AFAIK you'd have to also drop
>your citizenship and passport.

Nope. Not that it'll matter. We're heading to be like Russia... two
classes: elitist politician or paisano.

>
>
>>> Where did your ancesetors come from prior to Jamestown?
>>
>> The Jamestown bunch came from Scotland. Later arrivals were from
>> Britain and Germany.
>>
>>> Planning to sell your home, or let one of your kids have it?
>>>
>>> Just curious...
>>
>> Probably just walk away. With the market like it is I owe slightly
>> more than the real value... at least right now.
>>
>
>Ouch! I thought your retirement money all went into savings. Why not pay
>down the mortgage instead? Getting more than the 5.xx% interest in
>today's investment climate would be close to playing roulette.

That was the plan. Then the last few years have seen all my US-based
business disappear. Thus my developing work overseas where countries
(at least some) at heading toward (or back to) capitalism.

...Jim Thompson
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From: Jim Thompson on
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:52:49 -0500,
hal-usenet(a)ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net (Hal Murray) wrote:

>In article <hhnkr556m5pik6jrnhtg8io8950mk99mvu(a)4ax.com>,
> Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> writes:
>...
>
>>It _will_ be painful to walk away from a country that my ancestors
>>settled, beginning 400+ years ago (Jamestown)... but I can if
>>pushed... leave the suckers with only themselves to suck upon :-)
>
>Where would you go?

I'd be welcome almost anywhere that needs _real_ engineering...
Israel, NZ, Hong Kong... I could even be a big hero in Russia or
mainland China :-)

...Jim Thompson
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The only thing bipartisan in this country is hypocrisy
From: dagmargoodboat on
On Apr 5, 1:35 pm, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> This one's good too:http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870397680457511424178200...

Yep, that was good. Thanks.

Here's an interesting pair:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/04/opinion/04friedman.html?ref=opinion
“Between 1980 and 2005, virtually all net new jobs created in the
U.S.
were created by firms that were 5 years old or less,”

and, taxes on those companies are being raised 25%...
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/small_biz_big_tax_Tm9zntbp2I339WyBwwOgzK

Something both articles still miss is the huge economic effect of the
mandate in Mr. Obama's recent insurance regulation law (no, it wasn't
a health care bill). That mandate compels US citizens to spend more
than $1T on expanded, more expensive insurance.

That has the same effect as a tax--it drains money from people's
hands, and starves all the other things (businesses) they would've
spent it on. That destroys jobs in all the starved areas, and expands
health-insurance employment dramatically, etc.

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Cheers,
James Arthur
From: Joerg on
Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:14:10 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:39:51 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
>>> <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
>>>> message news:hhnkr556m5pik6jrnhtg8io8950mk99mvu(a)4ax.com...
>>>>> It _will_ be painful to walk away from a country that my ancestors
>>>>> settled, beginning 400+ years ago (Jamestown)... but I can if
>>>>> pushed... leave the suckers with only themselves to suck upon :-)
>>>> You can bet Obama is going to try to extend his reach internationally if at
>>>> all possible. :-)
>>> He's already started. But it only applies if you're within the US and
>>> receiving income from without. Thus a confiscatory tax is simply
>>> avoided by moving out.
>>>
>> Ahm, I think you are wrong on that one. AFAIK you'd have to also drop
>> your citizenship and passport.
>
> Nope. Not that it'll matter. ...


Careful. I'd read up before moving. This is for Canada but probably
similar rules apply for NZ. You can shield the first $80k or so _but_ it
seems you'd blow that privilege if you violate the 330-day substantial
presence test:

http://www.serbinski.com/Americans_Living_Abroad.pdf

So you'd really have to say bye-bye to all your relatives. Very hard to
do for the spouse, and I speak from experience here.


> ... We're heading to be like Russia... two
> classes: elitist politician or paisano.
>
>>
>>>> Where did your ancesetors come from prior to Jamestown?
>>> The Jamestown bunch came from Scotland. Later arrivals were from
>>> Britain and Germany.
>>>
>>>> Planning to sell your home, or let one of your kids have it?
>>>>
>>>> Just curious...
>>> Probably just walk away. With the market like it is I owe slightly
>>> more than the real value... at least right now.
>>>
>> Ouch! I thought your retirement money all went into savings. Why not pay
>> down the mortgage instead? Getting more than the 5.xx% interest in
>> today's investment climate would be close to playing roulette.
>
> That was the plan. ...


Too many $100 lunches maybe ... :-)


Then the last few years have seen all my US-based
> business disappear. Thus my developing work overseas where countries
> (at least some) at heading toward (or back to) capitalism.
>

Strange. My US business didn't vanish but maybe that's different in chip
design which I don't do. Well, except an architecture once in a blue moon.

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From: dagmargoodboat on
On Apr 5, 7:08 pm, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Bill Sloman wrote:

> > This isn't the Laffer Curve in action, its just incompetence on the
> > part of the tax legislators, who wasted their time trying to get money
> > from people who pay enough tax to justify keeping a tax avoidance
> > expert on tap.
>
> You just repeated the definition of the Laffer curve :-)

He who Laffs last...?

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