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From: DJW on 21 Mar 2010 12:16 Have a B & W G-3 300 can I use LeopardAssist to install OS 10.4 Tiger on Cds on a slave hard drive instead of 10.5 Leopard on DVDs?
From: Jolly Roger on 21 Mar 2010 12:47 In article <2c370ed1-1943-42e1-b10c-768e5179febc(a)d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, DJW <ddwr(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Have a B & W G-3 300 can I use LeopardAssist to install OS 10.4 Tiger > on Cds on a slave hard drive instead of 10.5 Leopard on DVDs? A 300 MHz G3 will be extremely slow. I would say it's probably not worth the trouble. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: David Empson on 21 Mar 2010 19:05 Lewis <g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <jollyroger-25C7E0.11470621032010(a)news.individual.net> > Jolly <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > In article > > <2c370ed1-1943-42e1-b10c-768e5179febc(a)d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, > > DJW <ddwr(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> Have a B & W G-3 300 can I use LeopardAssist to install OS 10.4 Tiger > >> on Cds on a slave hard drive instead of 10.5 Leopard on DVDs? > > > A 300 MHz G3 will be extremely slow. I would say it's probably not worth > > the trouble. > > I have 10.4.11 on a iMac DV (350 or 400Mhz, I forget). It's perfectly > usable. > > I did not think 10.5 could run *at all* on a G3. It can't. I tried it on an iMac G3 just for a laugh (400 MHz model, with Firewire, which is officially supported by 10.4). It got stuck early in the boot sequence (with the grey Apple on the screen). It couldn't even boot into single-user mode. The OP's question is confusing - subject line implies they want to install Leopard, but content refers to installing Tiger. Nothing special will be needed to install the CD edition of Tiger on a B&W G3, as it is an officially supported model for Tiger. -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: DJW on 21 Mar 2010 23:05 On Mar 21, 6:05 pm, demp...(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > Lewis <g.kr...(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > > In message <jollyroger-25C7E0.11470621032...(a)news.individual.net> > > Jolly <jollyro...(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > In article > > > <2c370ed1-1943-42e1-b10c-768e5179f...(a)d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, > > > DJW <d...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Have a B & W G-3 300 can I use LeopardAssist to install OS 10.4 Tiger > > >> on Cds on a slave hard drive instead of 10.5 Leopard on DVDs? > > > > A 300 MHz G3 will be extremely slow. I would say it's probably not worth > > > the trouble. > > > I have 10.4.11 on a iMac DV (350 or 400Mhz, I forget). It's perfectly > > usable. > > > I did not think 10.5 could run *at all* on a G3. > > It can't. > > I tried it on an iMac G3 just for a laugh (400 MHz model, with Firewire, > which is officially supported by 10.4). It got stuck early in the boot > sequence (with the grey Apple on the screen). It couldn't even boot into > single-user mode. > > The OP's question is confusing - subject line implies they want to > install Leopard, but content refers to installing Tiger. Nothing special > will be needed to install the CD edition of Tiger on a B&W G3, as it is > an officially supported model for Tiger. > > -- > David Empson > demp...(a)actrix.gen.nz The computer I am talking about is a 300 MHz B & W G3 And because 10.4 will not install on a G3 below 350 MHz! I installed 10.4 on another 400MHz B & W G3 tower with a PCI SCSI card in it to an external SCSI hard drive. I then hooked it up to the G-3 B & W 300 MHz in question that also has a PCI SCSI card in it. 10.4 work fine on the 300MHz B & W G-3. Now I want to install 10.4 on my internal master IDE hard drive on that 300MHz. I need to fake an over clock of the computer so the installer will see over 350 MHz and then install 10.4 not 10.5. I have not found a Tigerassist application so asking if Leoperdassist will let me use 10.4 CD disks instead of 10.5 installer disks (DVD?) I hope that clarifies what I want to do.
From: David Empson on 22 Mar 2010 02:12
DJW <ddwr(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 21, 6:05 pm, demp...(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > > Lewis <g.kr...(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > > > In message <jollyroger-25C7E0.11470621032...(a)news.individual.net> > > > Jolly <jollyro...(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > > In article > > > > <2c370ed1-1943-42e1-b10c-768e5179f...(a)d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, > > > > DJW <d...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Have a B & W G-3 300 can I use LeopardAssist to install OS 10.4 Tiger > > > >> on Cds on a slave hard drive instead of 10.5 Leopard on DVDs? > > > > > > A 300 MHz G3 will be extremely slow. I would say it's probably not worth > > > > the trouble. > > > > > I have 10.4.11 on a iMac DV (350 or 400Mhz, I forget). It's perfectly > > > usable. > > > > > I did not think 10.5 could run *at all* on a G3. > > > > It can't. > > > > I tried it on an iMac G3 just for a laugh (400 MHz model, with Firewire, > > which is officially supported by 10.4). It got stuck early in the boot > > sequence (with the grey Apple on the screen). It couldn't even boot into > > single-user mode. > > > > The OP's question is confusing - subject line implies they want to > > install Leopard, but content refers to installing Tiger. Nothing special > > will be needed to install the CD edition of Tiger on a B&W G3, as it is > > an officially supported model for Tiger. > The computer I am talking about is a 300 MHz B & W G3 > And because 10.4 will not install on a G3 below 350 MHz! I don't know where you got that CPU frequency requirement from. 10.4 has no such requirement. The system requirements for 10.4 are "PowerPC G3 or later, built-in Firewire, 256 MB of RAM, and 3.0 GB of hard disk space". The only place the CPU frequency comes into it is if you are talking about an iMac G3, where the Firewire port only exists on the 400 MHz and faster models, so 10.4 cannot be installed on the 350 MHz and slower iMacs (unless you use a workaround). That doesn't apply to the PowerMac G3 (Blue & White), because every B&W G3 has built-in Firewire. > I installed 10.4 on another 400MHz B & W G3 tower with a PCI SCSI card > in it to an external SCSI hard drive. I then hooked it up to the G-3 B > & W 300 MHz in question that also has a PCI SCSI card in it. 10.4 work > fine on the 300MHz B & W G-3. Of course. It would just as well if you had booted from the install CD and installed it on that computer, without involving another one. > Now I want to install 10.4 on my internal master IDE hard drive on > that 300MHz. I need to fake an over clock of the computer so the > installer will see over 350 MHz No, you don't, as the Tiger installer doesn't check the CPU speed because it is not a system requirement. > and then install 10.4 not 10.5. I have not found a Tigerassist application > so asking if Leoperdassist will let me use 10.4 CD disks instead of 10.5 > installer disks (DVD?) I hope that clarifies what I want to do. I have no idea what LeopardAssist is, but in any case it isn't going to help, because you don't need any software to assist with installing Tiger on any B&W G3. (Assuming it has sufficient memory and hard drive space, and you have installation media compatible with its optical drive.) You wouldn't be able to directly use a Tiger _DVD_ to install on a 300 MHz B&W G3 which has a CD-ROM drive (that can't read DVDs). In this case you would need a workaround such as an externally connected and bootable DVD drive, or put the DVD into a newer Mac in target mode and boot the B&W G3 from it, or temporarily move the hard drive to a compatible computer to install it, or replace the internal CD-ROM drive with a newer optical drive which can read DVDs. If you have the Tiger install CD-ROM set (set of at least four, if I remember right) then it will be able to boot and install on the 300 MHz B&W G3, as long as the computer has at least 256 MB of RAM and enough disk space. -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz |