From: VanguardLH on
The Old Bloke wrote:

> http://www.winxdvd.com/giveaway/dvd-ripper-01.htm
>
> No need to provide an email address. I haven't tried the software.

This is the same ploy as the GiveAwayOfTheDay (GOTD) site. Both use a
wrapper that will refuse to install the software after the day of the
giveaway. That means you have until the end of the giveaway day to do the
install. You will NOT be able to reinstall the program at a later time,
like if you have to rebuild your system, get a new system, or want to
install later on a different system.

There is a small difference. GOTD won't let you do the install after the
giveaway day has expired. This company does the install but their program
refuses to run unless you connect your host to the Internet for it to
"verify" itself. Who knows what data is getting transferred (I wasn't
interested in doing any packet sniffing to find out since I'm not interested
in self-destructive "giveaway" software). If you disable or don't have an
Internet connection, and because their "verification" fails, their software
reports that the "giveaway has expired".

Just more fake giveaway crapware. No thanks.
From: The Old Bloke on
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:42:46 -0600, VanguardLH <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote:

>The Old Bloke wrote:
>
>> http://www.winxdvd.com/giveaway/dvd-ripper-01.htm
>>
>> No need to provide an email address. I haven't tried the software.
>
>This is the same ploy as the GiveAwayOfTheDay (GOTD) site. Both use a
>wrapper that will refuse to install the software after the day of the
>giveaway. That means you have until the end of the giveaway day to do the
>install. You will NOT be able to reinstall the program at a later time,
>like if you have to rebuild your system, get a new system, or want to
>install later on a different system.
>
>There is a small difference. GOTD won't let you do the install after the
>giveaway day has expired. This company does the install but their program
>refuses to run unless you connect your host to the Internet for it to
>"verify" itself. Who knows what data is getting transferred (I wasn't
>interested in doing any packet sniffing to find out since I'm not interested
>in self-destructive "giveaway" software). If you disable or don't have an
>Internet connection, and because their "verification" fails, their software
>reports that the "giveaway has expired".
>
>Just more fake giveaway crapware. No thanks.

Sorry Guys. I was oblivious to all the restrictions.

Regards
Doug
From: VanguardLH on
The Old Bloke wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:42:46 -0600, VanguardLH <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote:
>
>>The Old Bloke wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.winxdvd.com/giveaway/dvd-ripper-01.htm
>>>
>>> No need to provide an email address. I haven't tried the software.
>>
>>This is the same ploy as the GiveAwayOfTheDay (GOTD) site. Both use a
>>wrapper that will refuse to install the software after the day of the
>>giveaway. That means you have until the end of the giveaway day to do the
>>install. You will NOT be able to reinstall the program at a later time,
>>like if you have to rebuild your system, get a new system, or want to
>>install later on a different system.
>>
>>There is a small difference. GOTD won't let you do the install after the
>>giveaway day has expired. This company does the install but their program
>>refuses to run unless you connect your host to the Internet for it to
>>"verify" itself. Who knows what data is getting transferred (I wasn't
>>interested in doing any packet sniffing to find out since I'm not interested
>>in self-destructive "giveaway" software). If you disable or don't have an
>>Internet connection, and because their "verification" fails, their software
>>reports that the "giveaway has expired".
>>
>>Just more fake giveaway crapware. No thanks.
>
> Sorry Guys. I was oblivious to all the restrictions.

I forgot to reenable the network adapter in the virtual machine to see what
happens if I complete an install while the host could connect to the
Internet. The install completed okay but the product did phone-home to
perform some "verify" operation.

I am still suspect of this software. The "company" hides behind a private
domain registration. Why would a company that sells commercialware need to
hide from its customers? (Puh-lease, don't plead the excuse of eliminating
spam from harvesting domain registrant contact info since the e-mail address
provided for domain registration can be unique and filter out anything not
sent from their domain registrar.) Their About page only lists e-mail
addresses, no phone numbers or addresses. A trace finds a registrant of a
domain that merely lists themself as "NAFTA" (North American Free Trade
Area) because they are located in American Somoa (south Pacific). Too much
hiding and bouncing around for my taste.

One reviewer of their freeware version has noted that it is actually
nagware. A scrolling message displays across your screen pleading you to
buy their payware version. I've only trialed an install inside a VM for
today so I don't know if anything appears later for their "special" edition.
They do accept PayPal so you can limit your exposure to just what you agree
to pay. However, they will never send you any installation media. They
only provide an "electronic download" copy of their software, so if you lose
your registration data then don't expect to be able to use their software
anymore.

They do not operate a forum (or point to a site that will host their forum)
where users can freely discuss their software and ask for help with it.

They are begging for affiliates. That is, they need others to volunteer to
spread their program. There seems to be confusion as to when Digiarty
Software appeared. Some places say 2002 while others say 2006. Because
they hide behind NameCheap's WhoIsGuard private registration service, I
can't see when they registered the winxdvd.com domain. NameCheap has been
affiliated many times with organized spam crime. They are a spam friendly
(blackhat) domain registrar. Basically if I see any domain using NameCheap,
that's a red flag against that site.

Just too many red flags against this software vendor for my taste. It might
be okay software but it isn't anything critical. For now, I'll stick with
DVDFab HD Decryptor and DVDshrink.
From: mike on
Yrrah wrote:
> mike <spamme0(a)go.com>:
>
>> Signature detected: Inno Setup Setup Data (5.3.5) (u)
>> This is not directly supported, but i'll try to unpack it as version 5203
>> ; Version detected: 5305
>
> I think you need a more recent version of the Inno Setup Unpacker,
> 'innounp.exe'. I have v.0.27, the current version. Universal Extractor
> v.1.6 still has v.0.20.
> The file is in the '\Universal Extractor\bin\' folder and can be
> replaced.
> Inno Setup Unpacker:
> http://innounp.sourceforge.net/
> Download:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/innounp/files/
>
> BTW, what happens if you delete 'WinXUpdate.exe' or change its name?
>
> Yrrah
>

Thanks,
That fixed universal extractor.
deleting winxupdate.exe seems to stop the calling home every time you
run it.
But there's still the issue of the initial install. It calls home to
validate itself. If you block that call, it says something like
"...expired" and refuses to run. Don't remember the exact wording.

What's the program that monitors registry entries and files
created during an install? I tried regmon, but unless you know exactly
what to filter on, there's way too much other registry stuff going on.
mike
From: mike on
Yrrah wrote:
> mike <spamme0(a)go.com>:
>
>> But there's still the issue of the initial install. It calls home to
>> validate itself. If you block that call, it says something like
>> "...expired" and refuses to run.
>
> I would never proceed with the install in that case.
Well, it's getting to be that most free versions of commercial programs
call home during install. You really don't have a choice.
I always test new software on a throwaway cloned system. At least
that protects against symptoms that show up immeidately.
>
>> What's the program that monitors registry entries and files
>> created during an install?
>
> The one I have been using for ages is not freeware.
>
> Do you have RevoUninstaller?
> http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html

According to the first page, the free version doesn't support what's
needed here.

> You may want to have a look at ZSoft Uninstaller. I don't use it
> though, so I can't recommend it.
> http://www.zsoft.dk/index/software_details/4

Zsoft seems to do what's required. I guess I'll know next week when
I try to reinstall after the expiration date.

Thanks, mike
>
> Yrrah
>
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