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From: N4469P on 2 Jan 2010 13:49 On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 02:33:04 -0600, VanguardLH wrote: > The "company" hides behind a private > domain registration. Why would a company that sells commercialware need to > hide Theyr scared shitless u'll drop by with ur ugly pus n all.
From: mike on 2 Jan 2010 19:05 Bear Bottoms wrote: > mike <spamme0(a)go.com> wrote in news:hhnmc8$v6m$1(a)news.eternal- > september.org: > >> Yrrah wrote: >>> mike <spamme0(a)go.com>: >>> >>>> But there's still the issue of the initial install. It calls home to >>>> validate itself. If you block that call, it says something like >>>> "...expired" and refuses to run. >>> I would never proceed with the install in that case. >> Well, it's getting to be that most free versions of commercial programs >> call home during install. You really don't have a choice. >> I always test new software on a throwaway cloned system. At least >> that protects against symptoms that show up immeidately. >>>> What's the program that monitors registry entries and files >>>> created during an install? >>> The one I have been using for ages is not freeware. >>> >>> Do you have RevoUninstaller? >>> http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html >> According to the first page, the free version doesn't support what's >> needed here. >> >>> You may want to have a look at ZSoft Uninstaller. I don't use it >>> though, so I can't recommend it. >>> http://www.zsoft.dk/index/software_details/4 >> Zsoft seems to do what's required. I guess I'll know next week when >> I try to reinstall after the expiration date. >> >> Thanks, mike >>> Yrrah >>> > You may want to use RegFromApp also to see if changes are made to the > registry when you run the program. ZSoft only registers changes made when > you install the program. > > http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/reg_file_from_application.html > Thanks, I'll try that too. What I did with zsoft was to run it, take a before snapshot install the program, run the program uninstall the program take an after snapshot to see what was left behind to prevent reinstallation. This was with the mcafee uninstaller. A huge amount of stuff was left over. I deleted what I thought might be relevant with no success. Doesn't matter tho. The uninstaller is something you really need once and can restore your system when you're done.
From: Richard Steinfeld on 5 Jan 2010 02:19 -ALBASANI- VanguardLH wrote: > The Old Bloke wrote: > >> http://www.winxdvd.com/giveaway/dvd-ripper-01.htm >> >> No need to provide an email address. I haven't tried the software. > > This is the same ploy as the GiveAwayOfTheDay (GOTD) site. Both use a > wrapper that will refuse to install the software after the day of the > giveaway. There are tricks to get around the limitation. I've done it. It's not worth it. The wrapper is an installed routine in and of itself: it's more crud in your registry. So, you think you've been clever and gotten yourself some free software. You get dependent on it, store a lot of data in the program's proprietary format. And then, a virus wipes your registry. You've got to rebuild your system and then: GOTCHA! You gotta buy the program damn fast in order to get at your data. Maybe the publisher is out-of-business. Sucka: you've been had! True freeware is mo betta. Richard
From: Richard Steinfeld on 5 Jan 2010 02:24 Yrrah wr > Do you have RevoUninstaller? > http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html > You may want to have a look at ZSoft Uninstaller. I don't use it > though, so I can't recommend it. > http://www.zsoft.dk/index/software_details/4 > I can. They're both good. Richard
From: VanguardLH on 5 Jan 2010 22:07
Richard Steinfeld wrote: > -ALBASANI- VanguardLH wrote: >> The Old Bloke wrote: >> >>> http://www.winxdvd.com/giveaway/dvd-ripper-01.htm >>> >>> No need to provide an email address. I haven't tried the software. >> >> This is the same ploy as the GiveAwayOfTheDay (GOTD) site. Both use a >> wrapper that will refuse to install the software after the day of the >> giveaway. > > There are tricks to get around the limitation. I've done it. It's > not worth it. The wrapper is an installed routine in and of > itself: it's more crud in your registry. > > So, you think you've been clever and gotten yourself some free > software. You get dependent on it, store a lot of data in the > program's proprietary format. > > And then, a virus wipes your registry. You've got to rebuild your > system and then: GOTCHA! You gotta buy the program damn fast in > order to get at your data. Maybe the publisher is out-of-business. > > Sucka: you've been had! > > True freeware is mo betta. > > Richard As I noted in my next post in that subthread (in response to Old Bloke), the product would install after the giveaway day had expired. However, it still wanted to phone-home to "register" itself. I didn't bother to sniff the packets to see what information was getting sent out. I still decided there were too many red flags to bother trialing or keeping this software. |