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From: Cal Who on 1 Jul 2010 11:06 "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:i0i6vt$mpi$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > " Cal Who" <CalWhoNOSPAM(a)roadrunner.com> wrote in message > news:i0i07m$fgp$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "Donald Anadell" <danadell(a)nospamersmikrotec.com> wrote in message >> news:eSIvL7QGLHA.1868(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> >>> " Cal Who" <CalWhoNOSPAM(a)roadrunner.com> wrote in message >>> news:i0hdhd$udq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> >>>> " Cal Who" <CalWhoNOSPAM(a)roadrunner.com> wrote in message >>>> news:i0gv03$avf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>I don't have any evidence of Window Defender on my machine. >>>>> My Start/All Programs does not contain it. >>>>> I opened Control panelAdd Remove Programs to see if it is mentioned >>>>> there - it isn't. >>>>> >>>>> Shouldn't it appear some place - I like to check if it is really >>>>> installed. >>>>> >>>>> Thank >>>>> >>>> I wonder if you can do me a favor and let me know one thing: >>>> >>>> If installed does it show up in the control panel list of programs that >>>> can be removed? >>> >>> Yes, and Yes. It should be listed in Add\Remove Programs as "Windows >>> Defender" >>> >>>> >>>> If not, how can I check to se if it is installed? >>> >>> In the Run box type(or copy and paste) the following: >>> >>> C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MSASCui.exe >>> >>> If it's installed this will open the Windows Defender interface. >>> >>> Good luck, >>> >>> Donald Anadell >>> >>> >>> >> Thanks, Guess I don't have it. >> I always thought I did because I get some kind of MS security up dates >> periodically like they were virus signatures. >> >> Thanks >> >> > > > WD is not an automatic update. It's not the first time I guessed wrong. How does the typical MS user learn about such MS offering as Defender? Thanks > -- > Bruce Hagen > MS-MVP [Mail] > Imperial Beach, CA >
From: Bruce Hagen on 1 Jul 2010 11:24 " Cal Who" <CalWhoNOSPAM(a)roadrunner.com> wrote in message news:i0iaeb$b7a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:i0i7e6$p21$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "VanguardLH" <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in message >> news:i0hdrs$pe2$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>> Bruce Hagen wrote: >>> >>>> VanguardLH wrote ... >>>> >>>>> Cal Who wrote: >>>> >>>>> Also, Windows Defender is dead. It was replaced with Microsoft >>>>> Security >>>>> Essentials (MSE). >>>> >>>> MSE includes the properties of Windows Defender, but MSE is not a >>>> replacement unless you are running MSE. When using an AV other than >>>> MSE >>>> like Avast, AVG, etc, Windows Defender is still alive and well with >>>> continuous updating. >>> >>> The OP said they don't have Windows Defender. Why would you suggest >>> installing WD when MSE is its replacement (includes WD plus the AV)? >>> What they should get now is MSE, not Windows Defender. >>> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/security/default.aspx >>> >>> Going to: >>> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/default.aspx >>> >>> and searching on Windows Defender finds the following download page: >>> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/default.aspx >>> >>> So it's still available for download. The lifecycle page at: >>> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=11952 >>> >>> says it doesn't go dead for about another 2 years. So I was wrong >>> thinking WD is officially dead. Does seem pointless to install WD >>> when >>> MSE is available. Yes, you could install WD along with a 3rd party AV >>> but then you obviate the need for WD if you install a 3rd party AV. >>> It >>> has been maybe a decade since any AV program only detected viruses. >> >> >> The OP did not say WD was not installed, he said he couldn't find it. I >> asked if MSE was installed because on some Windows Versions, installing >> MSE actually removes WD. >> >> Should they get MSE? Sure. Why not? But they need to know they must to >> remove their current AV program and most people are reluctant to do >> that especially if they just paid for their current AV program. >> -- >> Bruce Hagen >> MS-MVP [Mail] >> Imperial Beach, CA >> > > > Do you recommend that I remove AVG 9 now that I have MSE. > > Is MS supplying a AV program free? > > I think the default MSE schedule is to run once a week the quick > version. > > Is that enough? > > Does it check e-mail and other things in real time like AVG does? > > > > > > Thanks MSE does all and more than AVG free and is also freeware. It is an Anti-Virus, Anti-Spam and Anti-Malware program all in one. I have mine set to do a quick scan once a week myself. I don't even notice it did it if I don't check the log. (IOW, very un-intrusive). MSE does not contain e-mail scanning in the same form of other AV programs, but is always protecting you from malicious e-mail as well as any program. It does have real-time protection on all your files, including temp files where attachments may be opened to. E-mail scanning is not needed in ant e-mail program and is often the cause of problems rather than a cure. <canned> Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant layer of protection that eats up CPUs, slows down sending and receiving, and causes a multitude of problems such as time-outs, account setting changes and has even been responsible for loss of messages. Your up-to-date A/V program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA
From: Bruce Hagen on 1 Jul 2010 11:26 " Cal Who" <CalWhoNOSPAM(a)roadrunner.com> wrote in message news:i0iap9$eb3$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:i0i6lb$l7k$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> " Cal Who" <CalWhoNOSPAM(a)roadrunner.com> wrote in message >> news:i0i14t$n6e$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:i0h7d4$a7j$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> >>>> "VanguardLH" <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in message >>>> news:i0h70g$ehu$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>>>> Cal Who wrote: >>>> >>>>> Also, Windows Defender is dead. It was replaced with Microsoft >>>>> Security >>>>> Essentials (MSE). >>>> >>>> >>>> MSE includes the properties of Windows Defender, but MSE is not a >>>> replacement unless you are running MSE. >>> >>> I just installed MSE and wonder what yourlast comment means. Do I have >>> to manully run it sometime. I believe it is scheduled to run by >>> itself. I did not change any of the settings? >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >> >> >> MSE includes Windows Defender. Like any other AV program, MSE runs in >> the background all the time. You can set a scheduled scan if you wish, >> but it is no more or less needed than a scheduled scan with any AV >> program >> -- >> Bruce Hagen >> MS-MVP [Mail] >> Imperial Beach, CA > > > The default that comes with MSE is a quick scan once a week. Itt seems > to me that it only has to scan for virus etc that were add to its list > since the last scan. True? > > I should get rid of AVG which I also have installed? > > Can't have two AV programs running?? > > > Thanks See my other reply, and yes, you need to uninstall AVG. You should never have 2 AV programs running at the same time. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA
From: Bruce Hagen on 1 Jul 2010 11:28 <snip> " Cal Who" <CalWhoNOSPAM(a)roadrunner.com> wrote in message news:i0iatk$g74$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> WD is not an automatic update. > > > It's not the first time I guessed wrong. > > How does the typical MS user learn about such MS offering as Defender? Visit Microsoft Download Center from time to time. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA
From: VanguardLH on 1 Jul 2010 11:45
Bruce Hagen wrote: > The OP did not say WD was not installed, he said he couldn't find it. I > asked if MSE was installed because on some Windows Versions, installing > MSE actually removes WD. WD is not included in any version of Windows XP, the topic of this newsgroup. |