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From: VanguardLH on 1 Jul 2010 11:45 Cal Who wrote: > VanguardLH wrote ... > >> Cal Who wrote: >> >>> I don't have any evidence of Window Defender on my machine. >> >> Well, did YOU ever bother to actually *install* it? If you want it on >> your computer than YOU will have to install it. > > I let MS automatically update my machine. Is it any good and for some reason > not automatically install? If so, do you know why that is so? *YOU* will have to install WD or MSE. Automatic Updates won't do it.
From: VanguardLH on 1 Jul 2010 11:50 Cal Who wrote: > Thanks, Guess I don't have it. > I always thought I did because I get some kind of MS security up dates > periodically like they were virus signatures. You are probably thinking of the monthly malware scanner (aka Malicious Software Removal Tool). That has a basic list of signatures, gets downloaded by AU (if *you* opt for it), runs, then removes itself. A monthly scan, assuming you include it in the AU list, is hardly reasonable protection against malware. http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.aspx http://support.microsoft.com/kb/890830 "The Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool does not replace an antivirus product. It is strictly a post-infection removal tool. Therefore, we strongly recommend that you install and use an up-to-date antivirus product."
From: Cal Who on 1 Jul 2010 11:54 "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:i0ic30$e9k$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > " Cal Who" <CalWhoNOSPAM(a)roadrunner.com> wrote in message > news:i0iap9$eb3$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message >> news:i0i6lb$l7k$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>> " Cal Who" <CalWhoNOSPAM(a)roadrunner.com> wrote in message >>> news:i0i14t$n6e$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> >>>> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:i0h7d4$a7j$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> >>>>> "VanguardLH" <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in message >>>>> news:i0h70g$ehu$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>>>>> Cal Who wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Also, Windows Defender is dead. It was replaced with Microsoft >>>>>> Security >>>>>> Essentials (MSE). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> MSE includes the properties of Windows Defender, but MSE is not a >>>>> replacement unless you are running MSE. >>>> >>>> I just installed MSE and wonder what yourlast comment means. Do I have >>>> to manully run it sometime. I believe it is scheduled to run by itself. >>>> I did not change any of the settings? >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>> >>> >>> MSE includes Windows Defender. Like any other AV program, MSE runs in >>> the background all the time. You can set a scheduled scan if you wish, >>> but it is no more or less needed than a scheduled scan with any AV >>> program >>> -- >>> Bruce Hagen >>> MS-MVP [Mail] >>> Imperial Beach, CA >> >> >> The default that comes with MSE is a quick scan once a week. Itt seems to >> me that it only has to scan for virus etc that were add to its list >> since the last scan. True? >> >> I should get rid of AVG which I also have installed? >> >> Can't have two AV programs running?? >> >> >> Thanks > > > > See my other reply, and yes, you need to uninstall AVG. You should never > have 2 AV programs running at the same time. > -- > Bruce Hagen > MS-MVP [Mail] > Imperial Beach, CA > Thanks a lot
From: Cal Who on 1 Jul 2010 11:58 "VanguardLH" <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in message news:i0id5h$bih$1(a)news.albasani.net... > Cal Who wrote: > >> VanguardLH wrote ... >> >>> Cal Who wrote: >>> >>>> I don't have any evidence of Window Defender on my machine. >>> >>> Well, did YOU ever bother to actually *install* it? If you want it on >>> your computer than YOU will have to install it. >> >> I let MS automatically update my machine. Is it any good and for some >> reason >> not automatically install? If so, do you know why that is so? > > *YOU* will have to install WD or MSE. Automatic Updates won't do it. I understand that but I think my question was about why MS does not include it in the auto installation process. Thanks
From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 1 Jul 2010 12:42
Cal Who wrote: <snip> >> MSE includes the properties of Windows Defender, but MSE is not a >> replacement unless you are running MSE. > > I just installed MSE and wonder what yourlast comment means. Do I have to > manully run it sometime. I believe it is scheduled to run by itself. I did > not change any of the settings? In Vista & Win7, installing MSE disables Defender by default. In WinXP with Defender installed, installing MSE will remove it. cf. http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/msestart/thread/5309cb8d-02e1-40e8-974f-0dcedb9ab9fd Microsoft Security Essentials Support Forums http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/mse -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 |