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From: Cal Who on 1 Jul 2010 14:00 "Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message news:eN1ZpPUGLHA.5472(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > Cal Who wrote: >> Now I need a replacement for Windows Live OneCare registry cleaner! > > Actually, you *don't* need a replacement for it. ;-) > > Registry cleaners offer no appreciable performance benefit and can > sometimes even damage your system. > I'm convinced now. Going to stay away from Registry cleaners. Thanks
From: Bruce Hagen on 1 Jul 2010 14:12 " Cal Who" <CalWhoNOSPAM(a)roadrunner.com> wrote in message news:i0ikv8$nv2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> MSE replaced OneCare, WD did not. >> >> Why on earth would you want to use a registry cleaner? There are plenty >> of free ones out there, but read this before running a registry cleaner >> and then take your chances. >> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 >> -- >> Bruce Hagen >> MS-MVP [Mail] >> Imperial Beach, CA >> > > > I'm convinced. I did just run OneCare after removing AVG and it did find > two AVG entries that it deleted. > > That has been my experience in the past. I.E., It found many entries > that I know should not be there. After getting rid of a Symatic program > once I removed hundreds (with a different program). > > And I like neatness so it bothers me to have a file full of junk. > > But I'm sure if it screwed up my SQL Server or VS 2010 I be a bit > unhappy. > > So I.m just not going to think about the junk that may be in those files > from now on, bite my lip, and leave well enough alone. > > > Thanks > Little bits and pieces of previous programs in the registry usually don't cause a problem. However, getting rid of AV programs entirely should be considered. Rather than a registry cleaner, there are specific programs for this. Here are some. Norton Removal Tool http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039 App Remover http://www.technibble.com/appremover-repair-tool-of-the-week/ AppRemover is a small, free and portable utility designed to be a single removal tool for a huge list of security products. It can remove products made by Avast!, AVG, Avira, BullGuard, CA, ClamWin, ESET, F-Secure, Kaspersky, Lavasoft, McAfee, Microsoft, Norman, Panda, Sophos, Symantec, TrendMicro, TrustPort, Webroot and many more. AppRemover Supported Applications http://www.appremover.com/supported-applications -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA
From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 1 Jul 2010 17:13 Cal Who wrote: > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:uF3mYyTGLHA.1716(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Cal Who wrote: >>>> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your >>>> subscription current? >>> >>> AVG... >> >> Like most current AV apps which include an anti-spyware component, >> installing AVG disables Defender by default. >> >> cf. http://www.avg.com/us-en/faq.num-2672 >> -- >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 > > Who knew? Well you guys did but not me. YW. You coulda ask about this in... AVG Free Suport Forum http://freeforum.avg.com/
From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 1 Jul 2010 17:18 Cal Who wrote: >>>> MSE includes the properties of Windows Defender, but MSE is not a >>>> replacement unless you are running MSE. >>> >>> I just installed MSE and wonder what yourlast comment means. Do I have >>> to >>> manully run it sometime. I believe it is scheduled to run by itself. I >>> did >>> not change any of the settings? >> >> In Vista & Win7, installing MSE disables Defender by default. >> >> In WinXP with Defender installed, installing MSE will remove it. > > That clears that up! I have XP. > > I wonder if I could sneak one more question in here. > > I believe Defender also replaces Windows Live OneCare (been reading the > Internet). > > I didn't have a subscription but used it ocasionally to clean the > registry. > > Am I now in a position where there is no free ms Registry cleaner? Where to begin? You may have run Windows Live OneCare Safety Center "Full Service" online scan but you did not install OneCare without paying for it. Those currently running OneCare might consider replacing OneCare with Microsoft Security Essentials BEFORE their current subscription expires. Finally, if you ever think your Registry needs to be cleaned, repaired, boosted, tuned-up, cured, tweaked, fixed, or optimized (it doesn't), read http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
From: Ken Blake, MVP on 1 Jul 2010 17:41
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 13:24:11 -0400, " Cal Who" <CalWhoNOSPAM(a)roadrunner.com> wrote: > Now I need a replacement for Windows Live OneCare registry cleaner! I *strongly* recommend against this. You should run *no* registry cleaner. Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you. The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit it may have. Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html And also http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/archive/2005/10/02/registry-junk-a-windows-fact-of-life.aspx Let me point out that neither I nor anyone else who warns against the use of registry cleaners has ever said that they always cause problems. If they always caused problems, they would disappear from the market almost immediately. Many people have used a registry cleaner and never had a problem with it. Rather, the problem with a registry cleaner is that it carries with it the substantial *risk* of having a problem. And since there is no benefit to using a registry cleaner, running that risk is a very bad bargain. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003 Please Reply to the Newsgroup |