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From: Bruce Hagen on 1 Jul 2010 13:19 " Cal Who" <CalWhoNOSPAM(a)roadrunner.com> wrote in message news:i0iig6$cs2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:OvUdYyTGLHA.1716(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Cal Who wrote: >> <snip> >>>> MSE includes the properties of Windows Defender, but MSE is not a >>>> replacement unless you are running MSE. >>> >>> I just installed MSE and wonder what yourlast comment means. Do I have >>> to >>> manully run it sometime. I believe it is scheduled to run by itself. I >>> did >>> not change any of the settings? >> >> In Vista & Win7, installing MSE disables Defender by default. >> >> In WinXP with Defender installed, installing MSE will remove it. > > > That clears that up! I have XP. > > I wonder if I could sneak one more question in here. > > I believe Defender also replaces Windows Live OneCare (been reading the > Internet). > > I didn't have a subscription but used it ocasionally to clean the > registry. > > Am I now in a position where there is no free ms Registry cleaner? > > > Thanks very much MSE replaced OneCare, WD did not. Why on earth would you want to use a registry cleaner? There are plenty of free ones out there, but read this before running a registry cleaner and then take your chances. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA
From: Cal Who on 1 Jul 2010 13:24 "VanguardLH" <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in message news:i0iden$bth$1(a)news.albasani.net... > Cal Who wrote: > >> Thanks, Guess I don't have it. >> I always thought I did because I get some kind of MS security up dates >> periodically like they were virus signatures. > > You are probably thinking of the monthly malware scanner (aka Malicious > Software Removal Tool). That has a basic list of signatures, gets > downloaded by AU (if *you* opt for it), runs, then removes itself. A > monthly scan, assuming you include it in the AU list, is hardly > reasonable protection against malware. > > http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.aspx > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/890830 > "The Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool does not replace an > antivirus product. It is strictly a post-infection removal tool. > Therefore, we strongly recommend that you install and use an up-to-date > antivirus product." I recognize the name now that you show it. That is it. So now that I finally learned that it and Defender are different Defender is no more! :-) Now I need a replacement for Windows Live OneCare registry cleaner! Thanks for staying with me on this!
From: Daave on 1 Jul 2010 13:36 Cal Who wrote: > Now I need a replacement for Windows Live OneCare registry cleaner! Actually, you *don't* need a replacement for it. ;-) Registry cleaners offer no appreciable performance benefit and can sometimes even damage your system.
From: Daave on 1 Jul 2010 13:54 Cal Who wrote: > "VanguardLH" <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in message > news:i0id5h$bih$1(a)news.albasani.net... >> Cal Who wrote: >> >>> VanguardLH wrote ... >>> >>>> Cal Who wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't have any evidence of Window Defender on my machine. >>>> >>>> Well, did YOU ever bother to actually *install* it? If you want >>>> it on your computer than YOU will have to install it. >>> >>> I let MS automatically update my machine. Is it any good and for >>> some reason >>> not automatically install? If so, do you know why that is so? >> >> *YOU* will have to install WD or MSE. Automatic Updates won't do it. > > > I understand that but I think my question was about why MS does not > include it in the auto installation process. MS stands for Microsoft. Microsoft, among other things, sells operating systems. The operating systems are all called Windows. Windows XP does not include Windows Defender becuase it predates Windows Defender. Windows Defender didn't exist in 2002! Windows Vista does include Windows Defender. Hope that clears things up!
From: Cal Who on 1 Jul 2010 13:57
"Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:i0iinm$dlo$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > " Cal Who" <CalWhoNOSPAM(a)roadrunner.com> wrote in message > news:i0iig6$cs2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:OvUdYyTGLHA.1716(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> Cal Who wrote: >>> <snip> >>>>> MSE includes the properties of Windows Defender, but MSE is not a >>>>> replacement unless you are running MSE. >>>> >>>> I just installed MSE and wonder what yourlast comment means. Do I have >>>> to >>>> manully run it sometime. I believe it is scheduled to run by itself. I >>>> did >>>> not change any of the settings? >>> >>> In Vista & Win7, installing MSE disables Defender by default. >>> >>> In WinXP with Defender installed, installing MSE will remove it. >> >> >> That clears that up! I have XP. >> >> I wonder if I could sneak one more question in here. >> >> I believe Defender also replaces Windows Live OneCare (been reading the >> Internet). >> >> I didn't have a subscription but used it ocasionally to clean the >> registry. >> >> Am I now in a position where there is no free ms Registry cleaner? >> >> >> Thanks very much > > > > MSE replaced OneCare, WD did not. > > Why on earth would you want to use a registry cleaner? There are plenty of > free ones out there, but read this before running a registry cleaner and > then take your chances. > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 > -- > Bruce Hagen > MS-MVP [Mail] > Imperial Beach, CA > I'm convinced. I did just run OneCare after removing AVG and it did find two AVG entries that it deleted. That has been my experience in the past. I.E., It found many entries that I know should not be there. After getting rid of a Symatic program once I removed hundreds (with a different program). And I like neatness so it bothers me to have a file full of junk. But I'm sure if it screwed up my SQL Server or VS 2010 I be a bit unhappy. So I.m just not going to think about the junk that may be in those files from now on, bite my lip, and leave well enough alone. Thanks |