From: seaweedsl on
On Jan 9, 10:48 am, species8350 <not_here.5.species8...(a)xoxy.net>
wrote:
> Looking at the 'Site Summary'
>
> What does the 'Phys' information mean. For example, G

Don't know. Probably which mode, B, G or N it's in.
>
> I have noticed that most people seem to use channel 1 or 11. What is
> the significance of these channels?

They are the furthest apart to avoid interference. 1,6 and 11 are
completely separated. Try to use one of these if they are not too
crowded. In a crowded environment, one will have to start splitting
channels, using the other frequencies which partially overlap with 1,6
and 11. It really doesn't matter which frequencies, just that you try
to get a full 5 separation.
>
> Under 'WPS' there is a Pin code. It can also be renewed. What is this
> used for?

Don't know.
>
> In 'configuration' mode. What does Enrole mean?
>
Probably to connect to/with a specied Access Point seen by your radio.

> Other.
>
> Obviously the greater the signal received the better. But in % terms,
> what constitutes a good signal?

Generally, you are looking for a minimum 20dB signal to noise ratio.
Generally that means you want to have a -75 dB signal or better, but
it depends on the local noise/interference levels. The percentage
measurement your router vender uses is an arbitrary term and I ignore
it. Instead, just look at the S/N level, or simply the signal
level. -80 db is low but sometimes workable. -70db is usually
good enought for a reliable connection, but again, it depends on the
local environment.

> For an antenna with a cable. Does the cable form part of the antenna.
> In other words is the anrtenna the actaul antenna + the cable?

No. The cable is shielded so as to not act as an antenna. It
connects the antenna which is a calibrated length for the frequency it
is designed to work at.

Steve

From: seaweedsl on
On Jan 10, 7:19 am, species8350 <not_here.5.species8...(a)xoxy.net>
wrote:

> Some one said that if I detect other networks that broadcast on
> certain channels, then I should use a different channel that differs
> by 5. Evidently this is due to sharing. I dont quite understand this
> if people use diffeent ISP's.

ISP is irrelevant. It's the WiFi frequency airwaves that you are
concerned with sharing at this point.
>
> If it is advisable, then I may need to change the channel both on the
> client and therefore on the router. I assume that I will be able to
> change both on the client. This procedure may need to be conducted
> quite often depending on which networks are connecting.

Do a site survey with your client or router. Note which channels are
showing up strongest in your area. For example, you might see two
neighbors are on 11, several more at 6 and only one weaker one at
1. Choose a channel on your router/AP that is as separated as
possible from the stronger ones. In this case it would be 1. If all
three channels are already in use and strong in your area (-80 or
better?) , then pick 3, 4 or 8 maybe.

Once "enrolled" or "paired" (I forget the correct term) to the
router/AP of your choice, your client will automatically connect to
chosen router on whatever channel the router is currently set for when
fire up and connect. Generally no need to mess with any settings on
the client. Just the router. It's not usually changed much once set
- unless problems develop.

> Any idea what difference it might make if people are using the same
> channel, for example, two networks.

More interference, causing loss of data, retransmits etc, causing more
clogged airwaves and slowing data movement down.

> Thanks

Cheers,
Steve
From: species8350 on
On Jan 11, 5:00 pm, seaweedsl <seaweedst...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 10, 7:19 am, species8350 <not_here.5.species8...(a)xoxy.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Some one said that if I detect other networks that broadcast on
> > certain channels, then I should use a different channel that differs
> > by 5. Evidently this is due to sharing. I dont quite understand this
> > if people use diffeent ISP's.
>
> ISP is irrelevant.  It's the WiFi frequency airwaves that you are
> concerned with sharing at this point.
>
>
>
> > If it is advisable, then I may need to change the channel both on the
> > client and therefore on the router. I assume that I will be able to
> > change both on the client. This procedure may need to be conducted
> > quite often depending on which networks are connecting.
>
> Do a site survey with your client or router.  Note which channels are
> showing up strongest in your area.  For example, you might see two
> neighbors are on 11,  several more at 6 and only one weaker one at
> 1.   Choose a channel on your router/AP that is as separated as
> possible from the stronger ones.  In this case it would be 1.  If all
> three channels are already in use and strong in your area  (-80 or
> better?) ,  then pick 3, 4 or  8 maybe.
>
> Once "enrolled" or "paired"  (I forget the correct term)  to the
> router/AP of your choice, your client will automatically connect to
> chosen router on whatever channel the router is currently set for when
> fire up and connect.   Generally no need to mess with any settings on
> the client.  Just the router.  It's not usually changed much once set
> - unless problems develop.
>
> > Any idea what difference it might make if people are using the same
> > channel, for example, two networks.
>
> More interference, causing loss of data, retransmits etc, causing more
> clogged airwaves and slowing data movement down.
>
> > Thanks
>
> Cheers,
> Steve

I was just looking up some instructions on the Net for setting up wifi
and they say that I'll be asked to enter the wireless security key.
The instructions say use the wpa-psk key is on the router. They also
say that the code is 10 characters and capitalised.

This key does not seem very secure to me. But it's the recommended
procedure.

Others have remarked on the need for a complex key.
Does this key need to be typed on each occasion, or will it be stored
in the client. Can it be changed?

Thanks
From: Bob on
On 12/01/2010 10:40, species8350 wrote:

>
> I was just looking up some instructions on the Net for setting up wifi
> and they say that I'll be asked to enter the wireless security key.
> The instructions say use the wpa-psk key is on the router. They also
> say that the code is 10 characters and capitalised.
>

Really!
I have never seen anyone recommend that for WPA.

> This key does not seem very secure to me. But it's the recommended
> procedure.
>
> Others have remarked on the need for a complex key.
> Does this key need to be typed on each occasion, or will it be stored
> in the client. Can it be changed?
It will be stored on your computer.
The key can be changed on the router and then you will have to change it
on your computer.
>
> Thanks

The Thomson ST585 manual is available at
<http://www.thomsonbroadbandpartner.com/getfile.php?id=5349>
Since you asked about WPS the manual explains how it is used.

From: species8350 on
On Jan 12, 11:54 am, Bob <b...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 12/01/2010 10:40, species8350 wrote:
>
>
>
> > I was just looking up some instructions on the Net for setting up wifi
> > and they say that I'll be asked to enter the wireless security key.
> > The instructions say use the wpa-psk key is on the router. They also
> > say that the code is 10 characters and capitalised.
>
> Really!
> I have never seen anyone recommend that for WPA.
>
> > This key does not seem very secure to me. But it's the recommended
> > procedure.
>
> > Others have remarked on the need for a complex key.
> > Does this key need to be typed on each occasion, or will it be stored
> > in the client. Can it be changed?
>
> It will be stored on your computer.
> The key can be changed on the router and then you will have to change it
> on your computer.
>
>
>
> > Thanks
>
> The Thomson ST585 manual is available at
> <http://www.thomsonbroadbandpartner.com/getfile.php?id=5349>
> Since you asked about WPS the manual explains how it is used.

Thanks for responding

Regarding the use of the WPA Key.

The details that I am reading apply to a wireless connection.

Point 4. Says: 'You'll be asked to enter the wireless security key (or
passphrase). Use the WPA-PSK key shown on the bottom of the router.
It's 10 charcters long ..........'

Thanks for supplying the reference for the manual, I'll have a look.

Best wishes.

S