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From: species8350 on 13 Jan 2010 06:29 On Jan 12, 11:54 am, Bob <b...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 12/01/2010 10:40, species8350 wrote: > > > > > I was just looking up some instructions on the Net for setting up wifi > > and they say that I'll be asked to enter the wireless security key. > > The instructions say use the wpa-psk key is on the router. They also > > say that the code is 10 characters and capitalised. > > Really! > I have never seen anyone recommend that for WPA. > > > This key does not seem very secure to me. But it's the recommended > > procedure. > > > Others have remarked on the need for a complex key. > > Does this key need to be typed on each occasion, or will it be stored > > in the client. Can it be changed? > > It will be stored on your computer. > The key can be changed on the router and then you will have to change it > on your computer. > > > > > Thanks > > The Thomson ST585 manual is available at > <http://www.thomsonbroadbandpartner.com/getfile.php?id=5349> > Since you asked about WPS the manual explains how it is used. This is probably a daft question. But how secure does the key need to be. Is there a recommended length. Are structures advised? Thanks
From: Bob on 13 Jan 2010 06:37 On 13/01/2010 11:22, species8350 wrote: > On Jan 12, 11:54 am, Bob<b...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> On 12/01/2010 10:40, species8350 wrote: >> >> >> >>> I was just looking up some instructions on the Net for setting up wifi >>> and they say that I'll be asked to enter the wireless security key. >>> The instructions say use the wpa-psk key is on the router. They also >>> say that the code is 10 characters and capitalised. >> >> Really! >> I have never seen anyone recommend that for WPA. >> >>> This key does not seem very secure to me. But it's the recommended >>> procedure. >> >>> Others have remarked on the need for a complex key. >>> Does this key need to be typed on each occasion, or will it be stored >>> in the client. Can it be changed? >> >> It will be stored on your computer. >> The key can be changed on the router and then you will have to change it >> on your computer. >> >> >> >>> Thanks >> >> The Thomson ST585 manual is available at >> <http://www.thomsonbroadbandpartner.com/getfile.php?id=5349> >> Since you asked about WPS the manual explains how it is used. > > Thanks for responding > > Regarding the use of the WPA Key. > > The details that I am reading apply to a wireless connection. > > Point 4. Says: 'You'll be asked to enter the wireless security key (or > passphrase). Use the WPA-PSK key shown on the bottom of the router. > It's 10 charcters long ..........' > While some form of encryption is better than none I would change the encryption key that came enabled on the router to a longer one. Some routers that came with encryption enabled used the MAC address of the router as the basis for calculating the key and hackers found out. <http://www.gnucitizen.org/blog/default-key-algorithm-in-thomson-and-bt-home-hub-routers/> > Thanks for supplying the reference for the manual, I'll have a look. > > Best wishes. > > S
From: Bob on 13 Jan 2010 06:46 On 13/01/2010 11:29, species8350 wrote: > On Jan 12, 11:54 am, Bob<b...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> On 12/01/2010 10:40, species8350 wrote: >> >> >> >>> I was just looking up some instructions on the Net for setting up wifi >>> and they say that I'll be asked to enter the wireless security key. >>> The instructions say use the wpa-psk key is on the router. They also >>> say that the code is 10 characters and capitalised. >> >> Really! >> I have never seen anyone recommend that for WPA. >> >>> This key does not seem very secure to me. But it's the recommended >>> procedure. >> >>> Others have remarked on the need for a complex key. >>> Does this key need to be typed on each occasion, or will it be stored >>> in the client. Can it be changed? >> >> It will be stored on your computer. >> The key can be changed on the router and then you will have to change it >> on your computer. >> >> >> >>> Thanks >> >> The Thomson ST585 manual is available at >> <http://www.thomsonbroadbandpartner.com/getfile.php?id=5349> >> Since you asked about WPS the manual explains how it is used. > > This is probably a daft question. But how secure does the key need to > be. Is there a recommended length. Are structures advised? > > Thanks There have been numerous posts in this NG about what to use for passwords, the last one I looked at is :- <http://groups.google.com/group/alt.internet.wireless/browse_thread/thread/e6407dcc7c82f11/98bdd3021f47ce89?q=wpa+key&lnk=ol&>
From: species8350 on 14 Jan 2010 06:41 On 13 Jan, 11:46, Bob <b...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 13/01/2010 11:29, species8350 wrote: > > > > > On Jan 12, 11:54 am, Bob<b...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 12/01/2010 10:40, species8350 wrote: > > >>> I was just looking up some instructions on the Net for setting up wifi > >>> and they say that I'll be asked to enter the wireless security key. > >>> The instructions say use the wpa-psk key is on the router. They also > >>> say that the code is 10 characters and capitalised. > > >> Really! > >> I have never seen anyone recommend that for WPA. > > >>> This key does not seem very secure to me. But it's the recommended > >>> procedure. > > >>> Others have remarked on the need for a complex key. > >>> Does this key need to be typed on each occasion, or will it be stored > >>> in the client. Can it be changed? > > >> It will be stored on your computer. > >> The key can be changed on the router and then you will have to change it > >> on your computer. > > >>> Thanks > > >> The Thomson ST585 manual is available at > >> <http://www.thomsonbroadbandpartner.com/getfile.php?id=5349> > >> Since you asked about WPS the manual explains how it is used. > > > This is probably a daft question. But how secure does the key need to > > be. Is there a recommended length. Are structures advised? > > > Thanks > > There have been numerous posts in this NG about what to use for > passwords, the last one I looked at is :- > <http://groups.google.com/group/alt.internet.wireless/browse_thread/th...>- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Thank you
From: species8350 on 15 Jan 2010 06:42
On Jan 14, 11:41 am, species8350 <not_here.5.species8...(a)xoxy.net> wrote: > On 13 Jan, 11:46, Bob <b...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > On 13/01/2010 11:29, species8350 wrote: > > > > On Jan 12, 11:54 am, Bob<b...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > > >> On 12/01/2010 10:40, species8350 wrote: > > > >>> I was just looking up some instructions on the Net for setting up wifi > > >>> and they say that I'll be asked to enter the wireless security key. > > >>> The instructions say use the wpa-psk key is on the router. They also > > >>> say that the code is 10 characters and capitalised. > > > >> Really! > > >> I have never seen anyone recommend that for WPA. > > > >>> This key does not seem very secure to me. But it's the recommended > > >>> procedure. > > > >>> Others have remarked on the need for a complex key. > > >>> Does this key need to be typed on each occasion, or will it be stored > > >>> in the client. Can it be changed? > > > >> It will be stored on your computer. > > >> The key can be changed on the router and then you will have to change it > > >> on your computer. > > > >>> Thanks > > > >> The Thomson ST585 manual is available at > > >> <http://www.thomsonbroadbandpartner.com/getfile.php?id=5349> > > >> Since you asked about WPS the manual explains how it is used. > > > > This is probably a daft question. But how secure does the key need to > > > be. Is there a recommended length. Are structures advised? > > > > Thanks > > > There have been numerous posts in this NG about what to use for > > passwords, the last one I looked at is :- > > <http://groups.google.com/group/alt.internet.wireless/browse_thread/th....>- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Thank you- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I have now connected to the router and have wireless access. I seem to be getting a signal of about %35. The antenna on my pc can be moved, but this does not make a lot of difference. Has anyone any tips for improving signal strength. Point two. On the front of the Thomson Router is a button with a wireless logo. It flashes during activation. It seems to be depressable. Any idea what this button does? Thanks |