From: mpc755 on 6 Jan 2010 10:49 On Jan 6, 10:39 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 5, 10:05 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 5, 10:39 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 5, 9:32 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > What excuse to you have for not posting one link to support your > > > > argument the Sun's entrained aether does not end close to the orbit of > > > > Uranus? > > > > The REASON I have is that it is the obligation of the proposer of a > > > new theory to do this work. It is an essential skill that is expected > > > of, and practiced by, every scientific researcher on the planet. You > > > don't want to do it, because you are afraid, lazy, and childish. And > > > so you find it easier to try to taunt and wheedle people to do that > > > work for you. I don't have to indulge you in your foibles. > > > > > Is that because there is no evidence, like there is no > > > > evidence to support your belief wombats can fly? If your going to just > > > > make stuff up like there is evidence against the Sun's entrained > > > > aether ending close to the orbit of Uranus, then that is similar to > > > > you making stuff up about flying wombats. > > > > The evidence is there. I have suggested a tool by which you can find > > > it. > > > I have searched it thoroughly and the experiments having to do with > > aether entrainment and the Pioneer Effect support my conclusion the > > Pioneer Effect is due to the Sun's entrained aether ending close to > > the orbit of Uranus. > > You have not searched very well. You may consider searching for > documents where "entrainment" and "stellar aberration" are both > mentioned. > > > > > Aether Entrainment > > > 'Miller Challenges Einstein' > > Explains Ether Drift Research and Function of Interferometer > > Dr. Dayton C. Miller - "By George, I never could get zero".http://www.orgonelab.org/EtherDrift/MillerCase1929.pdf > > You do know that Dayton Miller is a laughing stock, right? > You are implying Reginald T. Cahill is a laughing stock? 'Combining NASA/JPL One-Way Optical-Fiber Light-Speed Data with Spacecraft Earth-Flyby Doppler-Shift Data to Characterise 3-Space Flow - Reginald T. Cahill' http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0906/0906.5404v2.pdf "The NASA/JPL data is in remarkable agreement with that determined in other light speed anisotropy experiments, such as Michelson-Morley (1887), Miller (1933), De-Witte (1991), Torr and Kolen (1981), Cahill (2006), Munera (2007), Cahill and Stokes (2008) and Cahill (2009)." > > > 'The Cosmic Background Radiation and the New Aether Drift'http://muller..lbl.gov/COBE-early_history/SciAm.pdf > > > 'Combining NASA/JPL One-Way Optical-Fiber Light-Speed Data with > > Spacecraft Earth-Flyby Doppler-Shift Data to Characterise 3-Space > > Flow'http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0906/0906.5404v2.pdf > > "The NASA/JPL data is in remarkable agreement with that determined in > > other light speed anisotropy experiments, such as Michelson-Morley > > (1887), Miller (1933), De- Witte (1991), Torr and Kolen (1981), Cahill > > (2006), Munera (2007), Cahill and Stokes (2008) and Cahill (2009)." > > (Note: In this article they distinctly refer to space as not > > consisting of aether but "a dynamical 3-space, which at a small scale > > is a quantum foam system". The point of referring to this article is > > to show how the above two aether experiments are in agreement with one > > another). > > > Aether Displacement > > > - Explains the observed behaviors in any double slit experiment (The > > photon/particle creates a wave in the aether and the wave always > > enters and exits both slits, while the particle always enters and > > exits a single slit). > > > 'Wave-particle duality seen in carbon-60 molecules'http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2952 > > > 'Quantum interference experiments with large molecules'http://hexagon.physics.wisc.edu/teaching/2007f_ph448/interesting%20pa... > > > The simpler, more intuitive explanation of the observed behaviors in > > the experiments described in the articles above is that the C-60 > > molecule always enters and exits a single slit and the displacement > > wave it creates in the aether enters and exits both. > > > - Explains gravity (the aether pushes back in order to return to a > > state of rest) > > > 'A Derivation of Dirac's Equation From a Model of an Elastic Medium'http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005cond.mat.10579B > > "We have taken a model of an elastic medium and derived an equation of > > motion that has the same form as Diracs equation in the presence of > > electromagnetism and gravity." > > > - Is the aether based equivalent of curved spacetime. Just as the more > > massive an object is the more spacetime is curved, the more massive an > > object is the more aether it displaces. As stated above, the matter > > that makes up the object displaces the aether that would otherwise be > > where the matter is. > > > 'Diracs Æther in Curved Spacetime-II: The Geometric Amplification of > > the Cosmic Magnetic Induction'http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/0212/0212234v1.pdf > > > - The photon is, or is creating, a wave in the aether. The photon > > physically becomes part of the metal in the photoelectric effect > > experiment. > > > 'Photoelectric effect'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoelectric_effect > > "Albert Einstein's mathematical description in 1905 of how the > > photoelectric effect was caused by absorption of quanta of light (now > > called photons), was in the paper named "On a Heuristic Viewpoint > > Concerning the Production and Transformation of Light". This paper > > proposed the simple description of "light quanta", or photons, and > > showed how they explained such phenomena as the photoelectric effect. > > His simple explanation in terms of absorption of discrete quanta of > > light explained the features of the phenomenon and the characteristic > > frequency. Einstein's explanation of the photoelectric effect won him > > the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1921." > > > In Aether Displacement the photon absorption is a physical absorption > > of aether by the metal taking up three dimensional space, causing an > > electron to be emitted. > > > - The sun, earth, jupiter, and the milky way are all likely to be > > creating whirlpools of aether, similar to the physical characteristics > > of the whirlpool of a hurricane. The earth's whirlpool of aether is > > rotating at almost the identical rotation of the earth at the earth's > > surface and slows down as you move away from the earth. Consider the > > moon to be getting carried along in the earth's aether whirlpool. > > Jupiter's outer moons orbit opposite the whirlpool because they are > > too far away from getting caught in the whirlpool, but Jupiter > > displaces aether far beyond the moons and the displaced aether is > > pushing back keeping all of the moons in orbit. > > > 'Space-time Vortex NASA's Gravity Probe B spacecraft has gathered all > > the data physicists need to check a bizarre prediction of Einstein's > > relativity.'http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/16nov_gpb.htm > > "We'll soon know the answer: A NASA/Stanford physics experiment called > > Gravity Probe B (GP-B) recently finished a year of gathering science > > data in Earth orbit. The results, which will take another year to > > analyze, should reveal the shape of space-time around Earth--and, > > possibly, the vortex." > > > In Aether Displacement, the vortex physically consists of aether. > > > - Gravity waves are aether waves. > > > 'Gravity Waves Make Tornados'http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/19mar_grits.htm > > 'What is an atmospheric gravity wave? Coleman explains: "They are > > similar to waves on the surface of the ocean, but they roll through > > the air instead of the water. Gravity is what keeps them going. If you > > push water up and then it plops back down, it creates waves. It's the > > same with air."' > > > If you read the above article, the whole article makes more sense if > > you conceptualize them describing aether waves instead of gravity > > waves. > > > 'Hunting for Gravity Waves'http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2002/sept/gravitywaves/index... > > "Einstein said that every time anything moved -- from the moon > > orbiting the Earth to one car bumping into another -- the fabric of > > space-time vibrates, sending out gravitational waves." > > > The above sounds the same as what is occurring in the double slit > > experiment with C-60 molecules. It also sounds like the following: > > > 'Louis de Broglie'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_broglie > > "This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that > > any moving particle or object had an associated wave." > > > Yes, every moving particle has an associated wave, a wave the particle > > creates in the aether. And that includes C-60 molecules and the > > Earth. > > > That is why I have been asking you to back up your claim, which as you > > are in denial, your refuse to do. > >
From: PD on 6 Jan 2010 10:57 On Jan 6, 9:49 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 6, 10:39 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 5, 10:05 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 5, 10:39 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 5, 9:32 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > What excuse to you have for not posting one link to support your > > > > > argument the Sun's entrained aether does not end close to the orbit of > > > > > Uranus? > > > > > The REASON I have is that it is the obligation of the proposer of a > > > > new theory to do this work. It is an essential skill that is expected > > > > of, and practiced by, every scientific researcher on the planet. You > > > > don't want to do it, because you are afraid, lazy, and childish. And > > > > so you find it easier to try to taunt and wheedle people to do that > > > > work for you. I don't have to indulge you in your foibles. > > > > > > Is that because there is no evidence, like there is no > > > > > evidence to support your belief wombats can fly? If your going to just > > > > > make stuff up like there is evidence against the Sun's entrained > > > > > aether ending close to the orbit of Uranus, then that is similar to > > > > > you making stuff up about flying wombats. > > > > > The evidence is there. I have suggested a tool by which you can find > > > > it. > > > > I have searched it thoroughly and the experiments having to do with > > > aether entrainment and the Pioneer Effect support my conclusion the > > > Pioneer Effect is due to the Sun's entrained aether ending close to > > > the orbit of Uranus. > > > You have not searched very well. You may consider searching for > > documents where "entrainment" and "stellar aberration" are both > > mentioned. > > > > Aether Entrainment > > > > 'Miller Challenges Einstein' > > > Explains Ether Drift Research and Function of Interferometer > > > Dr. Dayton C. Miller - "By George, I never could get zero".http://www..orgonelab.org/EtherDrift/MillerCase1929.pdf > > > You do know that Dayton Miller is a laughing stock, right? > > You are implying Reginald T. Cahill is a laughing stock? Um... yup. Widely known. The problem with amateurs trolling the internet is that they lack a bullshit meter. > > 'Combining NASA/JPL One-Way Optical-Fiber Light-Speed Data with > Spacecraft Earth-Flyby Doppler-Shift Data to Characterise 3-Space Flow > - Reginald T. Cahill'http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0906/0906.5404v2..pdf > > "The NASA/JPL data is in remarkable agreement with that determined in > other light speed anisotropy experiments, such as Michelson-Morley > (1887), Miller (1933), De-Witte (1991), Torr and Kolen (1981), Cahill > (2006), Munera (2007), Cahill and Stokes (2008) and Cahill (2009)." > > > > > > 'The Cosmic Background Radiation and the New Aether Drift'http://muller.lbl.gov/COBE-early_history/SciAm.pdf > > > > 'Combining NASA/JPL One-Way Optical-Fiber Light-Speed Data with > > > Spacecraft Earth-Flyby Doppler-Shift Data to Characterise 3-Space > > > Flow'http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0906/0906.5404v2.pdf > > > "The NASA/JPL data is in remarkable agreement with that determined in > > > other light speed anisotropy experiments, such as Michelson-Morley > > > (1887), Miller (1933), De- Witte (1991), Torr and Kolen (1981), Cahill > > > (2006), Munera (2007), Cahill and Stokes (2008) and Cahill (2009)." > > > (Note: In this article they distinctly refer to space as not > > > consisting of aether but "a dynamical 3-space, which at a small scale > > > is a quantum foam system". The point of referring to this article is > > > to show how the above two aether experiments are in agreement with one > > > another). > > > > Aether Displacement > > > > - Explains the observed behaviors in any double slit experiment (The > > > photon/particle creates a wave in the aether and the wave always > > > enters and exits both slits, while the particle always enters and > > > exits a single slit). > > > > 'Wave-particle duality seen in carbon-60 molecules'http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2952 > > > > 'Quantum interference experiments with large molecules'http://hexagon..physics.wisc.edu/teaching/2007f_ph448/interesting%20pa... > > > > The simpler, more intuitive explanation of the observed behaviors in > > > the experiments described in the articles above is that the C-60 > > > molecule always enters and exits a single slit and the displacement > > > wave it creates in the aether enters and exits both. > > > > - Explains gravity (the aether pushes back in order to return to a > > > state of rest) > > > > 'A Derivation of Dirac's Equation From a Model of an Elastic Medium'http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005cond.mat.10579B > > > "We have taken a model of an elastic medium and derived an equation of > > > motion that has the same form as Diracs equation in the presence of > > > electromagnetism and gravity." > > > > - Is the aether based equivalent of curved spacetime. Just as the more > > > massive an object is the more spacetime is curved, the more massive an > > > object is the more aether it displaces. As stated above, the matter > > > that makes up the object displaces the aether that would otherwise be > > > where the matter is. > > > > 'Diracs Æther in Curved Spacetime-II: The Geometric Amplification of > > > the Cosmic Magnetic Induction'http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/0212/0212234v1.pdf > > > > - The photon is, or is creating, a wave in the aether. The photon > > > physically becomes part of the metal in the photoelectric effect > > > experiment. > > > > 'Photoelectric effect'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoelectric_effect > > > "Albert Einstein's mathematical description in 1905 of how the > > > photoelectric effect was caused by absorption of quanta of light (now > > > called photons), was in the paper named "On a Heuristic Viewpoint > > > Concerning the Production and Transformation of Light". This paper > > > proposed the simple description of "light quanta", or photons, and > > > showed how they explained such phenomena as the photoelectric effect. > > > His simple explanation in terms of absorption of discrete quanta of > > > light explained the features of the phenomenon and the characteristic > > > frequency. Einstein's explanation of the photoelectric effect won him > > > the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1921." > > > > In Aether Displacement the photon absorption is a physical absorption > > > of aether by the metal taking up three dimensional space, causing an > > > electron to be emitted. > > > > - The sun, earth, jupiter, and the milky way are all likely to be > > > creating whirlpools of aether, similar to the physical characteristics > > > of the whirlpool of a hurricane. The earth's whirlpool of aether is > > > rotating at almost the identical rotation of the earth at the earth's > > > surface and slows down as you move away from the earth. Consider the > > > moon to be getting carried along in the earth's aether whirlpool. > > > Jupiter's outer moons orbit opposite the whirlpool because they are > > > too far away from getting caught in the whirlpool, but Jupiter > > > displaces aether far beyond the moons and the displaced aether is > > > pushing back keeping all of the moons in orbit. > > > > 'Space-time Vortex NASA's Gravity Probe B spacecraft has gathered all > > > the data physicists need to check a bizarre prediction of Einstein's > > > relativity.'http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/16nov_gpb.htm > > > "We'll soon know the answer: A NASA/Stanford physics experiment called > > > Gravity Probe B (GP-B) recently finished a year of gathering science > > > data in Earth orbit. The results, which will take another year to > > > analyze, should reveal the shape of space-time around Earth--and, > > > possibly, the vortex." > > > > In Aether Displacement, the vortex physically consists of aether. > > > > - Gravity waves are aether waves. > > > > 'Gravity Waves Make Tornados'http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/19mar_grits.htm > > > 'What is an atmospheric gravity wave? Coleman explains: "They are > > > similar to waves on the surface of the ocean, but they roll through > > > the air instead of the water. Gravity is what keeps them going. If you > > > push water up and then it plops back down, it creates waves. It's the > > > same with air."' > > > > If you read the above article, the whole article makes more sense if > > > you conceptualize them describing aether waves instead of gravity > > > waves. > > > > 'Hunting for Gravity Waves'http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2002/sept/gravitywaves/index... > > > "Einstein said that every time anything moved -- from the moon > > > orbiting the Earth to one car bumping into another -- the fabric of > > > space-time vibrates, sending out gravitational waves." > > > > The above sounds the same as what is occurring in the double slit > > > experiment with C-60 molecules. It also sounds like the following: > > > > 'Louis de Broglie'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_broglie > > > "This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that > > > any moving particle or object had an associated wave." > > > > Yes, every moving particle has an associated wave, a wave the particle > > > creates in the aether. And that includes C-60 molecules and the > > > Earth. > > > > That is why I have been asking you to back up your claim, which as you > > > are in denial, your refuse to do.
From: mpc755 on 6 Jan 2010 11:34 On Jan 6, 10:57 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 6, 9:49 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 6, 10:39 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 5, 10:05 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 5, 10:39 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 5, 9:32 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > What excuse to you have for not posting one link to support your > > > > > > argument the Sun's entrained aether does not end close to the orbit of > > > > > > Uranus? > > > > > > The REASON I have is that it is the obligation of the proposer of a > > > > > new theory to do this work. It is an essential skill that is expected > > > > > of, and practiced by, every scientific researcher on the planet. You > > > > > don't want to do it, because you are afraid, lazy, and childish. And > > > > > so you find it easier to try to taunt and wheedle people to do that > > > > > work for you. I don't have to indulge you in your foibles. > > > > > > > Is that because there is no evidence, like there is no > > > > > > evidence to support your belief wombats can fly? If your going to just > > > > > > make stuff up like there is evidence against the Sun's entrained > > > > > > aether ending close to the orbit of Uranus, then that is similar to > > > > > > you making stuff up about flying wombats. > > > > > > The evidence is there. I have suggested a tool by which you can find > > > > > it. > > > > > I have searched it thoroughly and the experiments having to do with > > > > aether entrainment and the Pioneer Effect support my conclusion the > > > > Pioneer Effect is due to the Sun's entrained aether ending close to > > > > the orbit of Uranus. > > > > You have not searched very well. You may consider searching for > > > documents where "entrainment" and "stellar aberration" are both > > > mentioned. > > > > > Aether Entrainment > > > > > 'Miller Challenges Einstein' > > > > Explains Ether Drift Research and Function of Interferometer > > > > Dr. Dayton C. Miller - "By George, I never could get zero".http://www.orgonelab.org/EtherDrift/MillerCase1929.pdf > > > > You do know that Dayton Miller is a laughing stock, right? > > > You are implying Reginald T. Cahill is a laughing stock? > > Um... yup. Widely known. > > The problem with amateurs trolling the internet is that they lack a > bullshit meter. > Michelson and Morley who's near-null result is evidence of aether entrainment. Are they laughing stocks also? Richard Muller - 'The Cosmic Background Radiation and the New Aether Drift'. Him too? > > > > 'Combining NASA/JPL One-Way Optical-Fiber Light-Speed Data with > > Spacecraft Earth-Flyby Doppler-Shift Data to Characterise 3-Space Flow > > - Reginald T. Cahill'http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0906/0906.5404v2.pdf > > > "The NASA/JPL data is in remarkable agreement with that determined in > > other light speed anisotropy experiments, such as Michelson-Morley > > (1887), Miller (1933), De-Witte (1991), Torr and Kolen (1981), Cahill > > (2006), Munera (2007), Cahill and Stokes (2008) and Cahill (2009)." > > > > > 'The Cosmic Background Radiation and the New Aether Drift'http://muller.lbl.gov/COBE-early_history/SciAm.pdf > > > > > 'Combining NASA/JPL One-Way Optical-Fiber Light-Speed Data with > > > > Spacecraft Earth-Flyby Doppler-Shift Data to Characterise 3-Space > > > > Flow'http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0906/0906.5404v2.pdf > > > > "The NASA/JPL data is in remarkable agreement with that determined in > > > > other light speed anisotropy experiments, such as Michelson-Morley > > > > (1887), Miller (1933), De- Witte (1991), Torr and Kolen (1981), Cahill > > > > (2006), Munera (2007), Cahill and Stokes (2008) and Cahill (2009)." > > > > (Note: In this article they distinctly refer to space as not > > > > consisting of aether but "a dynamical 3-space, which at a small scale > > > > is a quantum foam system". The point of referring to this article is > > > > to show how the above two aether experiments are in agreement with one > > > > another). > > > > > Aether Displacement > > > > > - Explains the observed behaviors in any double slit experiment (The > > > > photon/particle creates a wave in the aether and the wave always > > > > enters and exits both slits, while the particle always enters and > > > > exits a single slit). > > > > > 'Wave-particle duality seen in carbon-60 molecules'http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2952 > > > > > 'Quantum interference experiments with large molecules'http://hexagon.physics.wisc.edu/teaching/2007f_ph448/interesting%20pa... > > > > > The simpler, more intuitive explanation of the observed behaviors in > > > > the experiments described in the articles above is that the C-60 > > > > molecule always enters and exits a single slit and the displacement > > > > wave it creates in the aether enters and exits both. > > > > > - Explains gravity (the aether pushes back in order to return to a > > > > state of rest) > > > > > 'A Derivation of Dirac's Equation From a Model of an Elastic Medium'http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005cond.mat.10579B > > > > "We have taken a model of an elastic medium and derived an equation of > > > > motion that has the same form as Diracs equation in the presence of > > > > electromagnetism and gravity." > > > > > - Is the aether based equivalent of curved spacetime. Just as the more > > > > massive an object is the more spacetime is curved, the more massive an > > > > object is the more aether it displaces. As stated above, the matter > > > > that makes up the object displaces the aether that would otherwise be > > > > where the matter is. > > > > > 'Diracs Æther in Curved Spacetime-II: The Geometric Amplification of > > > > the Cosmic Magnetic Induction'http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/0212/0212234v1.pdf > > > > > - The photon is, or is creating, a wave in the aether. The photon > > > > physically becomes part of the metal in the photoelectric effect > > > > experiment. > > > > > 'Photoelectric effect'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoelectric_effect > > > > "Albert Einstein's mathematical description in 1905 of how the > > > > photoelectric effect was caused by absorption of quanta of light (now > > > > called photons), was in the paper named "On a Heuristic Viewpoint > > > > Concerning the Production and Transformation of Light". This paper > > > > proposed the simple description of "light quanta", or photons, and > > > > showed how they explained such phenomena as the photoelectric effect. > > > > His simple explanation in terms of absorption of discrete quanta of > > > > light explained the features of the phenomenon and the characteristic > > > > frequency. Einstein's explanation of the photoelectric effect won him > > > > the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1921." > > > > > In Aether Displacement the photon absorption is a physical absorption > > > > of aether by the metal taking up three dimensional space, causing an > > > > electron to be emitted. > > > > > - The sun, earth, jupiter, and the milky way are all likely to be > > > > creating whirlpools of aether, similar to the physical characteristics > > > > of the whirlpool of a hurricane. The earth's whirlpool of aether is > > > > rotating at almost the identical rotation of the earth at the earth's > > > > surface and slows down as you move away from the earth. Consider the > > > > moon to be getting carried along in the earth's aether whirlpool. > > > > Jupiter's outer moons orbit opposite the whirlpool because they are > > > > too far away from getting caught in the whirlpool, but Jupiter > > > > displaces aether far beyond the moons and the displaced aether is > > > > pushing back keeping all of the moons in orbit. > > > > > 'Space-time Vortex NASA's Gravity Probe B spacecraft has gathered all > > > > the data physicists need to check a bizarre prediction of Einstein's > > > > relativity.'http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/16nov_gpb.htm > > > > "We'll soon know the answer: A NASA/Stanford physics experiment called > > > > Gravity Probe B (GP-B) recently finished a year of gathering science > > > > data in Earth orbit. The results, which will take another year to > > > > analyze, should reveal the shape of space-time around Earth--and, > > > > possibly, the vortex." > > > > > In Aether Displacement, the vortex physically consists of aether. > > > > > - Gravity waves are aether waves. > > > > > 'Gravity Waves Make Tornados'http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/19mar_grits.htm > > > > 'What is an atmospheric gravity wave? Coleman explains: "They are > > > > similar to waves on the surface of the ocean, but they roll through > > > > the air instead of the water. Gravity is what keeps them going. If you > > > > push water up and then it plops back down, it creates waves. It's the > > > > same with air."' > > > > > If you read the above article, the whole article makes more sense if > > > > you conceptualize them describing aether waves instead of gravity > > > > waves. > > > > > 'Hunting for Gravity Waves'http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2002/sept/gravitywaves/index... > > > > "Einstein said that every time anything moved -- from the moon > > > > orbiting the Earth to one car bumping into another -- the fabric of > > > > space-time vibrates, sending out gravitational waves." > > > > > The above sounds the same as what is occurring in the double slit > > > > experiment with C-60 molecules. It also sounds like the following: > > > > > 'Louis de Broglie'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_broglie > > > > "This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that > > > > any moving particle or object had an associated wave." > > > > > Yes, every moving particle has an associated wave, a wave the particle > > > > creates in the aether. And that includes C-60 molecules and the > > > > Earth. > > > > > That is why I have been asking you to back up your claim, which as you > > > > are in denial, your refuse to do. > >
From: PD on 6 Jan 2010 14:41 On Jan 6, 10:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 6, 10:57 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 6, 9:49 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 6, 10:39 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 5, 10:05 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 5, 10:39 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 5, 9:32 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > What excuse to you have for not posting one link to support your > > > > > > > argument the Sun's entrained aether does not end close to the orbit of > > > > > > > Uranus? > > > > > > > The REASON I have is that it is the obligation of the proposer of a > > > > > > new theory to do this work. It is an essential skill that is expected > > > > > > of, and practiced by, every scientific researcher on the planet.. You > > > > > > don't want to do it, because you are afraid, lazy, and childish.. And > > > > > > so you find it easier to try to taunt and wheedle people to do that > > > > > > work for you. I don't have to indulge you in your foibles. > > > > > > > > Is that because there is no evidence, like there is no > > > > > > > evidence to support your belief wombats can fly? If your going to just > > > > > > > make stuff up like there is evidence against the Sun's entrained > > > > > > > aether ending close to the orbit of Uranus, then that is similar to > > > > > > > you making stuff up about flying wombats. > > > > > > > The evidence is there. I have suggested a tool by which you can find > > > > > > it. > > > > > > I have searched it thoroughly and the experiments having to do with > > > > > aether entrainment and the Pioneer Effect support my conclusion the > > > > > Pioneer Effect is due to the Sun's entrained aether ending close to > > > > > the orbit of Uranus. > > > > > You have not searched very well. You may consider searching for > > > > documents where "entrainment" and "stellar aberration" are both > > > > mentioned. > > > > > > Aether Entrainment > > > > > > 'Miller Challenges Einstein' > > > > > Explains Ether Drift Research and Function of Interferometer > > > > > Dr. Dayton C. Miller - "By George, I never could get zero".http://www.orgonelab.org/EtherDrift/MillerCase1929.pdf > > > > > You do know that Dayton Miller is a laughing stock, right? > > > > You are implying Reginald T. Cahill is a laughing stock? > > > Um... yup. Widely known. > > > The problem with amateurs trolling the internet is that they lack a > > bullshit meter. > > Michelson and Morley who's near-null result is evidence of aether > entrainment. Are they laughing stocks also? Certainly not. Their result is also evidence of special relativity, since SR's predictions are completely consistent with their results. Therefore, their experiment does not *favor* aether entrainment over special relativity. > > Richard Muller - 'The Cosmic Background Radiation and the New Aether > Drift'. Him too? Certainly not. Again, the CMBR anisotropy (which has since been measured with much more precision than this quite old result) is completely consistent with relativity, and therefore this result does not *favor* aether entrainment over special relativity. However, aether entrainment is inconsistent with OTHER experimental results, such as the ones I suggested you find. > > > > > > 'Combining NASA/JPL One-Way Optical-Fiber Light-Speed Data with > > > Spacecraft Earth-Flyby Doppler-Shift Data to Characterise 3-Space Flow > > > - Reginald T. Cahill'http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0906/0906.5404v2.pdf > > > > "The NASA/JPL data is in remarkable agreement with that determined in > > > other light speed anisotropy experiments, such as Michelson-Morley > > > (1887), Miller (1933), De-Witte (1991), Torr and Kolen (1981), Cahill > > > (2006), Munera (2007), Cahill and Stokes (2008) and Cahill (2009)." > > > > > > 'The Cosmic Background Radiation and the New Aether Drift'http://muller.lbl.gov/COBE-early_history/SciAm.pdf > > > > > > 'Combining NASA/JPL One-Way Optical-Fiber Light-Speed Data with > > > > > Spacecraft Earth-Flyby Doppler-Shift Data to Characterise 3-Space > > > > > Flow'http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0906/0906.5404v2.pdf > > > > > "The NASA/JPL data is in remarkable agreement with that determined in > > > > > other light speed anisotropy experiments, such as Michelson-Morley > > > > > (1887), Miller (1933), De- Witte (1991), Torr and Kolen (1981), Cahill > > > > > (2006), Munera (2007), Cahill and Stokes (2008) and Cahill (2009).." > > > > > (Note: In this article they distinctly refer to space as not > > > > > consisting of aether but "a dynamical 3-space, which at a small scale > > > > > is a quantum foam system". The point of referring to this article is > > > > > to show how the above two aether experiments are in agreement with one > > > > > another). > > > > > > Aether Displacement > > > > > > - Explains the observed behaviors in any double slit experiment (The > > > > > photon/particle creates a wave in the aether and the wave always > > > > > enters and exits both slits, while the particle always enters and > > > > > exits a single slit). > > > > > > 'Wave-particle duality seen in carbon-60 molecules'http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2952 > > > > > > 'Quantum interference experiments with large molecules'http://hexagon.physics.wisc.edu/teaching/2007f_ph448/interesting%20pa... > > > > > > The simpler, more intuitive explanation of the observed behaviors in > > > > > the experiments described in the articles above is that the C-60 > > > > > molecule always enters and exits a single slit and the displacement > > > > > wave it creates in the aether enters and exits both. > > > > > > - Explains gravity (the aether pushes back in order to return to a > > > > > state of rest) > > > > > > 'A Derivation of Dirac's Equation From a Model of an Elastic Medium'http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005cond.mat.10579B > > > > > "We have taken a model of an elastic medium and derived an equation of > > > > > motion that has the same form as Diracs equation in the presence of > > > > > electromagnetism and gravity." > > > > > > - Is the aether based equivalent of curved spacetime. Just as the more > > > > > massive an object is the more spacetime is curved, the more massive an > > > > > object is the more aether it displaces. As stated above, the matter > > > > > that makes up the object displaces the aether that would otherwise be > > > > > where the matter is. > > > > > > 'Diracs Æther in Curved Spacetime-II: The Geometric Amplification of > > > > > the Cosmic Magnetic Induction'http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/0212/0212234v1.pdf > > > > > > - The photon is, or is creating, a wave in the aether. The photon > > > > > physically becomes part of the metal in the photoelectric effect > > > > > experiment. > > > > > > 'Photoelectric effect'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoelectric_effect > > > > > "Albert Einstein's mathematical description in 1905 of how the > > > > > photoelectric effect was caused by absorption of quanta of light (now > > > > > called photons), was in the paper named "On a Heuristic Viewpoint > > > > > Concerning the Production and Transformation of Light". This paper > > > > > proposed the simple description of "light quanta", or photons, and > > > > > showed how they explained such phenomena as the photoelectric effect. > > > > > His simple explanation in terms of absorption of discrete quanta of > > > > > light explained the features of the phenomenon and the characteristic > > > > > frequency. Einstein's explanation of the photoelectric effect won him > > > > > the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1921." > > > > > > In Aether Displacement the photon absorption is a physical absorption > > > > > of aether by the metal taking up three dimensional space, causing an > > > > > electron to be emitted. > > > > > > - The sun, earth, jupiter, and the milky way are all likely to be > > > > > creating whirlpools of aether, similar to the physical characteristics > > > > > of the whirlpool of a hurricane. The earth's whirlpool of aether is > > > > > rotating at almost the identical rotation of the earth at the earth's > > > > > surface and slows down as you move away from the earth. Consider the > > > > > moon to be getting carried along in the earth's aether whirlpool. > > > > > Jupiter's outer moons orbit opposite the whirlpool because they are > > > > > too far away from getting caught in the whirlpool, but Jupiter > > > > > displaces aether far beyond the moons and the displaced aether is > > > > > pushing back keeping all of the moons in orbit. > > > > > > 'Space-time Vortex NASA's Gravity Probe B spacecraft has gathered all > > > > > the data physicists need to check a bizarre prediction of Einstein's > > > > > relativity.'http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/16nov_gpb.htm > > > > > "We'll soon know the answer: A NASA/Stanford physics experiment called > > > > > Gravity Probe B (GP-B) recently finished a year of gathering science > > > > > data in Earth orbit. The results, which will take another year to > > > > > analyze, should reveal the shape of space-time around Earth--and, > > > > > possibly, the vortex." > > > > > > In Aether Displacement, the vortex physically consists of aether. > > > > > > - Gravity waves are aether waves. > > > > > > 'Gravity Waves Make Tornados'http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/19mar_grits.htm > > > > > 'What is an atmospheric gravity wave? Coleman explains: "They are > > > > > similar to waves on the surface of the ocean, but they roll through > > > > > the air instead of the water. Gravity is what keeps them going. If you > > > > > push water up and then it plops back down, it creates waves. It's the > > > > > same with air."' > > > > > > If you read the above article, the whole article makes more sense if > > > > > you conceptualize them describing aether waves instead of gravity > > > > > waves. > > > > > > 'Hunting for Gravity Waves'http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2002/sept/gravitywaves/index... > > > > > "Einstein said that every time anything moved -- from the moon > > > > > orbiting the Earth to one car bumping into another -- the fabric of > > > > > space-time vibrates, sending out gravitational waves." > > > > > > The above sounds the same as what is occurring in the double slit > > > > > experiment with C-60 molecules. It also sounds like the following: > > > > > > 'Louis de Broglie'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_broglie > > > > > "This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that > > > > > any moving particle or object had an associated wave." > > > > > > Yes, every moving particle has an associated wave, a wave the particle > > > > > creates in the aether. And that includes C-60 molecules and the > > > > > Earth. > > > > > > That is why I have been asking you to back up your claim, which as you > > > > > are in denial, your refuse to do.
From: Michael Moroney on 6 Jan 2010 15:38
mpc755 <mpc755(a)gmail.com> writes: >Michelson and Morley who's near-null result is evidence of aether >entrainment. Are they laughing stocks also? MM's results indicate either no ether at all or ether entrainment. It cannot tell the difference between those two possibilities. You were already corrected on this before. |