From: Stefan Blom on 13 Feb 2010 15:08 Surely, the Print Preview shortcut must be available even in Word 2010. Personally I don't use the button, but I do use the keyboard shortcut (Ctrl+F2). Very useful, for example when you want to update certain fields. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message news:%231h54LOrKHA.6140(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Okay, I'm seeing this now, but I sure hope that Print Preview can still be > added to the QAT in Word 2010 because I use it very frequently and do not > want to have to go through File | Print to get to it. Moreover, the Print > Preview in FSR doesn't have the "Shrink One Page" button that many people > ask about > > -- > Suzanne S. Barnhill > Microsoft MVP (Word) > Words into Type > Fairhope, Alabama USA > http://word.mvps.org > > "Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:%23yE$ogNrKHA.5940(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Thanks for confirming this. >> >> By the way, note that the mentioned options in Full Screen Reading view >> are also available in Word 2007. >> >> -- >> Stefan Blom >> Microsoft Word MVP >> >> >> >> "Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman(a)verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:rpldn5d1bmojni1ets47feo5idvuu8kiai(a)4ax.com... >>> Suzanne, please accept that Janine is correct. With very little >>> fanfare, the devs completely redesigned this part of Word. The Print >>> Preview -- which appears when you click File > Print whether you want >>> it or not -- is zoomable but not editable. However, when you go to >>> FSR, there's a View Options button in the top right corner that opens >>> a menu, and that menu includes "Show One Page", "Show Two Pages", and >>> "Show Printed Page" -- the last of these is WYSIWYG. There is also an >>> independent toggle setting for "Allow Typing", which is the option >>> Tammy will want. >>> >>> You can't do everything there -- for example, the only formatting >>> tools are the ones on the MiniBar or applied via keyboard shortcuts -- >>> but it's entirely adequate for last-minute corrections. >>> >>> As another enhancement, if you make edits in either FSR or Print >>> Layout view, and then go to the other view, your cursor location >>> doesn't change. >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Jay Freedman >>> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org >>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the >>> newsgroup so all may benefit. >>> >>> On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:40:22 +0100, "Stefan Blom" >>> <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>> >>>>I agree. >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Stefan Blom >>>>Microsoft Word MVP >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>news:uVnConLrKHA.3908(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> And it would appear that FSR may have changed from Word 2007. I don't >>>>> have >>>>> 2010 installed, so I can't check any of this out, but FSR view was >>>>> certainly not intended to be WYSIWYG; its purpose is to make a >>>>> document >>>>> more readable onscreen, and this means that line and page breaks may >>>>> be >>>>> entirely different from the printing version. I don't think Janine >>>>> understands what Tammy wants, and it's going to take someone else who >>>>> has >>>>> 2010 installed to help Tammy, I suspect. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill >>>>> Microsoft MVP (Word) >>>>> Words into Type >>>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA >>>>> http://word.mvps.org >>>>> >>>>> "Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:OZ1DttKrKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> But Full Screen Reading isn't necessarily a WYSIWYG view, which is >>>>>> supported by the help topic that you cited: "you also have the option >>>>>> of >>>>>> seeing the document as it would appear on a printed page". >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Stefan Blom >>>>>> Microsoft Word MVP >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> __________________________________ >>>>>> "Janine" <janine(a)ribbonspace.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:u0D55oHrKHA.6140(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> No Suzanne, actually Full Screen Reading is where you Allow Typing >>>>>> Mode >>>>>> (make edits to document as Tammy has suggested wanting to do). >>>>>> WYSIWYG >>>>>> ("seeing the document as it would appear on the printed page") is >>>>>> what I >>>>>> have in Full Screen Reading view not sure why you would have a >>>>>> different >>>>>> view Suzanne. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In Microsoft Office "14" programs, you now preview and print your >>>>>> Office >>>>>> files in one location - on the Print tab in the Microsoft Office >>>>>> Backstage view. >>>>>> >>> [snip] >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope that helps Tammy. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>>> news:eWejhTHrKHA.5896(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Full Screen Reading is in no way a substitute for Print Preview. I >>>>>>> can't >>>>>>> imagine any reason for even using FSR, much less trying to edit in >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> view >>>>>>> (given that it isn't WYSIWYG); I do my editing in Print Layout view, >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> some people do like to be able to immediately correct errors they >>>>>>> spot >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> Print Preview. This would not be such an issue if you could close >>>>>>> Preview and be on the page you were viewing in PP, but, unless this >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> changed, Word takes you back to the page where you were when you >>>>>>> switched >>>>>>> into Print Preview, which is not acceptable if you've PageDown'd >>>>>>> through >>>>>>> dozens of pages before spotting the error. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The question that Tammy is asking is not about how to use the >>>>>>> magnifier >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> Print Preview but about how to turn it off in order to permit >>>>>>> editing. >>>>>>> If >>>>>>> there is no magnifier, then perhaps clicking in the document >>>>>>> automatically >>>>>>> permits editing? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill >>>>>>> Microsoft MVP (Word) >>>>>>> Words into Type >>>>>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA >>>>>>> http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Janine" <janine(a)ribbonspace.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:OfEB1xErKHA.1800(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> Suzanne, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is now in Full Screen Reading - you can Find/Allow Typing/Track >>>>>>>> Changes/Comments read superbly on the screen (the larger the >>>>>>>> better). >>>>>>>> Read >>>>>>>> one page or two pages etc. and go to Print Preview when ready to >>>>>>>> print. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Print Preview is now just what it should always have been Print >>>>>>>> Preview >>>>>>>> what you see before you print (as in Printer Software). The new >>>>>>>> FULL >>>>>>>> SCREEN READING mode is where you modify the document and it is >>>>>>>> great. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Let's face it if you didn't know to click the magnifying glass many >>>>>>>> users >>>>>>>> never would have. In FULL SCREEN READING mode you can see >>>>>>>> everything >>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>> clearly and select what you like. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Janine >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:u6jgwsErKHA.6140(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> If editing is no longer possible in Print Preview, a lot of people >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> going to be unhappy. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill >>>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP (Word) >>>>>>>>> Words into Type >>>>>>>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA >>>>>>>>> http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Janine" <janine(a)ribbonspace.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:8C29934E-9327-4B3B-B946-A7AE367D1B6E(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>>>>>> Tammy >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In 2010 Print Preview does just that only now. >>>>>>>>>> You are looking for Full Screen Reading (next icon at bottom >>>>>>>>>> right of >>>>>>>>>> screen) gives you options to edit/track/comment/highlight etc. So >>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>> really don't need Print Preview unless you really want to Print >>>>>>>>>> Preview - just clear the brain cells and think Full Screen >>>>>>>>>> Reading. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have assigned a shortcut key ReadingMode >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Janine >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Tammy" <Tammy(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:2BDFC0DD-CE91-483A-8FEA-49A2DBEC36B5(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>>>>>>> Hi - >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I can't find the Magnifier option when I'm in Print Preview - >>>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>>>>>> know where it exists in Word 2010? Please don't tell me it's >>>>>>>>>>> gone!!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any guidance! >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on 13 Feb 2010 15:37 Exactly! How often do we tell people to switch to PP to update fields? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:u6fFlfOrKHA.5036(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Surely, the Print Preview shortcut must be available even in Word 2010. > Personally I don't use the button, but I do use the keyboard shortcut > (Ctrl+F2). Very useful, for example when you want to update certain > fields. > > -- > Stefan Blom > Microsoft Word MVP > > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message > news:%231h54LOrKHA.6140(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Okay, I'm seeing this now, but I sure hope that Print Preview can still >> be >> added to the QAT in Word 2010 because I use it very frequently and do not >> want to have to go through File | Print to get to it. Moreover, the Print >> Preview in FSR doesn't have the "Shrink One Page" button that many people >> ask about >> >> -- >> Suzanne S. Barnhill >> Microsoft MVP (Word) >> Words into Type >> Fairhope, Alabama USA >> http://word.mvps.org >> >> "Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:%23yE$ogNrKHA.5940(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Thanks for confirming this. >>> >>> By the way, note that the mentioned options in Full Screen Reading view >>> are also available in Word 2007. >>> >>> -- >>> Stefan Blom >>> Microsoft Word MVP >>> >>> >>> >>> "Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman(a)verizon.net> wrote in message >>> news:rpldn5d1bmojni1ets47feo5idvuu8kiai(a)4ax.com... >>>> Suzanne, please accept that Janine is correct. With very little >>>> fanfare, the devs completely redesigned this part of Word. The Print >>>> Preview -- which appears when you click File > Print whether you want >>>> it or not -- is zoomable but not editable. However, when you go to >>>> FSR, there's a View Options button in the top right corner that opens >>>> a menu, and that menu includes "Show One Page", "Show Two Pages", and >>>> "Show Printed Page" -- the last of these is WYSIWYG. There is also an >>>> independent toggle setting for "Allow Typing", which is the option >>>> Tammy will want. >>>> >>>> You can't do everything there -- for example, the only formatting >>>> tools are the ones on the MiniBar or applied via keyboard shortcuts -- >>>> but it's entirely adequate for last-minute corrections. >>>> >>>> As another enhancement, if you make edits in either FSR or Print >>>> Layout view, and then go to the other view, your cursor location >>>> doesn't change. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> Jay Freedman >>>> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org >>>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the >>>> newsgroup so all may benefit. >>>> >>>> On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:40:22 +0100, "Stefan Blom" >>>> <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>I agree. >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Stefan Blom >>>>>Microsoft Word MVP >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>>news:uVnConLrKHA.3908(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> And it would appear that FSR may have changed from Word 2007. I don't >>>>>> have >>>>>> 2010 installed, so I can't check any of this out, but FSR view was >>>>>> certainly not intended to be WYSIWYG; its purpose is to make a >>>>>> document >>>>>> more readable onscreen, and this means that line and page breaks may >>>>>> be >>>>>> entirely different from the printing version. I don't think Janine >>>>>> understands what Tammy wants, and it's going to take someone else who >>>>>> has >>>>>> 2010 installed to help Tammy, I suspect. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill >>>>>> Microsoft MVP (Word) >>>>>> Words into Type >>>>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA >>>>>> http://word.mvps.org >>>>>> >>>>>> "Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:OZ1DttKrKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> But Full Screen Reading isn't necessarily a WYSIWYG view, which is >>>>>>> supported by the help topic that you cited: "you also have the >>>>>>> option >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> seeing the document as it would appear on a printed page". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Stefan Blom >>>>>>> Microsoft Word MVP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> __________________________________ >>>>>>> "Janine" <janine(a)ribbonspace.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:u0D55oHrKHA.6140(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> No Suzanne, actually Full Screen Reading is where you Allow Typing >>>>>>> Mode >>>>>>> (make edits to document as Tammy has suggested wanting to do). >>>>>>> WYSIWYG >>>>>>> ("seeing the document as it would appear on the printed page") is >>>>>>> what I >>>>>>> have in Full Screen Reading view not sure why you would have a >>>>>>> different >>>>>>> view Suzanne. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In Microsoft Office "14" programs, you now preview and print your >>>>>>> Office >>>>>>> files in one location - on the Print tab in the Microsoft Office >>>>>>> Backstage view. >>>>>>> >>>> [snip] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope that helps Tammy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:eWejhTHrKHA.5896(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> Full Screen Reading is in no way a substitute for Print Preview. I >>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>> imagine any reason for even using FSR, much less trying to edit in >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> view >>>>>>>> (given that it isn't WYSIWYG); I do my editing in Print Layout >>>>>>>> view, >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> some people do like to be able to immediately correct errors they >>>>>>>> spot >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> Print Preview. This would not be such an issue if you could close >>>>>>>> Preview and be on the page you were viewing in PP, but, unless this >>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>> changed, Word takes you back to the page where you were when you >>>>>>>> switched >>>>>>>> into Print Preview, which is not acceptable if you've PageDown'd >>>>>>>> through >>>>>>>> dozens of pages before spotting the error. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The question that Tammy is asking is not about how to use the >>>>>>>> magnifier >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> Print Preview but about how to turn it off in order to permit >>>>>>>> editing. >>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>> there is no magnifier, then perhaps clicking in the document >>>>>>>> automatically >>>>>>>> permits editing? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill >>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP (Word) >>>>>>>> Words into Type >>>>>>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA >>>>>>>> http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Janine" <janine(a)ribbonspace.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:OfEB1xErKHA.1800(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> Suzanne, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is now in Full Screen Reading - you can Find/Allow Typing/Track >>>>>>>>> Changes/Comments read superbly on the screen (the larger the >>>>>>>>> better). >>>>>>>>> Read >>>>>>>>> one page or two pages etc. and go to Print Preview when ready to >>>>>>>>> print. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Print Preview is now just what it should always have been Print >>>>>>>>> Preview >>>>>>>>> what you see before you print (as in Printer Software). The new >>>>>>>>> FULL >>>>>>>>> SCREEN READING mode is where you modify the document and it is >>>>>>>>> great. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Let's face it if you didn't know to click the magnifying glass >>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>> users >>>>>>>>> never would have. In FULL SCREEN READING mode you can see >>>>>>>>> everything >>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>> clearly and select what you like. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Janine >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:u6jgwsErKHA.6140(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> If editing is no longer possible in Print Preview, a lot of >>>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> going to be unhappy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill >>>>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP (Word) >>>>>>>>>> Words into Type >>>>>>>>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA >>>>>>>>>> http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Janine" <janine(a)ribbonspace.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:8C29934E-9327-4B3B-B946-A7AE367D1B6E(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>>>>>>> Tammy >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In 2010 Print Preview does just that only now. >>>>>>>>>>> You are looking for Full Screen Reading (next icon at bottom >>>>>>>>>>> right of >>>>>>>>>>> screen) gives you options to edit/track/comment/highlight etc. >>>>>>>>>>> So >>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>> really don't need Print Preview unless you really want to Print >>>>>>>>>>> Preview - just clear the brain cells and think Full Screen >>>>>>>>>>> Reading. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have assigned a shortcut key ReadingMode >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Janine >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Tammy" <Tammy(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:2BDFC0DD-CE91-483A-8FEA-49A2DBEC36B5(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi - >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find the Magnifier option when I'm in Print Preview - >>>>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>>>>>>> know where it exists in Word 2010? Please don't tell me it's >>>>>>>>>>>> gone!!! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any guidance! >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >> > > > >
From: Jay Freedman on 13 Feb 2010 16:22 Yes, the Print Preview button (now called Print Preview and Print) is in the "Popular" category in the Customize Quick Access Toolbar dialog and in the (Hallelujah!) Customize Ribbon dialog. To close the Print Preview, press the Esc key or any of the tabs other than File... DO NOT click the red X in the upper right corner, as that will close Word (there were complaints in the early betas because there used to be a second X there to close the File menu, and lots of people clicked the wrong one). -- Jay On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:08:47 +0100, "Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >Surely, the Print Preview shortcut must be available even in Word 2010. >Personally I don't use the button, but I do use the keyboard shortcut >(Ctrl+F2). Very useful, for example when you want to update certain fields. > >-- >Stefan Blom >Microsoft Word MVP > > > >"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message >news:%231h54LOrKHA.6140(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Okay, I'm seeing this now, but I sure hope that Print Preview can still be >> added to the QAT in Word 2010 because I use it very frequently and do not >> want to have to go through File | Print to get to it. Moreover, the Print >> Preview in FSR doesn't have the "Shrink One Page" button that many people >> ask about >> >> -- >> Suzanne S. Barnhill >> Microsoft MVP (Word) >> Words into Type >> Fairhope, Alabama USA >> http://word.mvps.org >> >> "Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:%23yE$ogNrKHA.5940(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Thanks for confirming this. >>> >>> By the way, note that the mentioned options in Full Screen Reading view >>> are also available in Word 2007. >>> >>> -- >>> Stefan Blom >>> Microsoft Word MVP >>> >>> >>> >>> "Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman(a)verizon.net> wrote in message >>> news:rpldn5d1bmojni1ets47feo5idvuu8kiai(a)4ax.com... >>>> Suzanne, please accept that Janine is correct. With very little >>>> fanfare, the devs completely redesigned this part of Word. The Print >>>> Preview -- which appears when you click File > Print whether you want >>>> it or not -- is zoomable but not editable. However, when you go to >>>> FSR, there's a View Options button in the top right corner that opens >>>> a menu, and that menu includes "Show One Page", "Show Two Pages", and >>>> "Show Printed Page" -- the last of these is WYSIWYG. There is also an >>>> independent toggle setting for "Allow Typing", which is the option >>>> Tammy will want. >>>> >>>> You can't do everything there -- for example, the only formatting >>>> tools are the ones on the MiniBar or applied via keyboard shortcuts -- >>>> but it's entirely adequate for last-minute corrections. >>>> >>>> As another enhancement, if you make edits in either FSR or Print >>>> Layout view, and then go to the other view, your cursor location >>>> doesn't change. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> Jay Freedman >>>> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org >>>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the >>>> newsgroup so all may benefit. >>>> >>>> On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:40:22 +0100, "Stefan Blom" >>>> <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>I agree. >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Stefan Blom >>>>>Microsoft Word MVP >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>>news:uVnConLrKHA.3908(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> And it would appear that FSR may have changed from Word 2007. I don't >>>>>> have >>>>>> 2010 installed, so I can't check any of this out, but FSR view was >>>>>> certainly not intended to be WYSIWYG; its purpose is to make a >>>>>> document >>>>>> more readable onscreen, and this means that line and page breaks may >>>>>> be >>>>>> entirely different from the printing version. I don't think Janine >>>>>> understands what Tammy wants, and it's going to take someone else who >>>>>> has >>>>>> 2010 installed to help Tammy, I suspect. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill >>>>>> Microsoft MVP (Word) >>>>>> Words into Type >>>>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA >>>>>> http://word.mvps.org >>>>>> >>>>>> "Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:OZ1DttKrKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> But Full Screen Reading isn't necessarily a WYSIWYG view, which is >>>>>>> supported by the help topic that you cited: "you also have the option >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> seeing the document as it would appear on a printed page". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Stefan Blom >>>>>>> Microsoft Word MVP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> __________________________________ >>>>>>> "Janine" <janine(a)ribbonspace.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:u0D55oHrKHA.6140(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> No Suzanne, actually Full Screen Reading is where you Allow Typing >>>>>>> Mode >>>>>>> (make edits to document as Tammy has suggested wanting to do). >>>>>>> WYSIWYG >>>>>>> ("seeing the document as it would appear on the printed page") is >>>>>>> what I >>>>>>> have in Full Screen Reading view not sure why you would have a >>>>>>> different >>>>>>> view Suzanne. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In Microsoft Office "14" programs, you now preview and print your >>>>>>> Office >>>>>>> files in one location - on the Print tab in the Microsoft Office >>>>>>> Backstage view. >>>>>>> >>>> [snip] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope that helps Tammy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:eWejhTHrKHA.5896(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> Full Screen Reading is in no way a substitute for Print Preview. I >>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>> imagine any reason for even using FSR, much less trying to edit in >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> view >>>>>>>> (given that it isn't WYSIWYG); I do my editing in Print Layout view, >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> some people do like to be able to immediately correct errors they >>>>>>>> spot >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> Print Preview. This would not be such an issue if you could close >>>>>>>> Preview and be on the page you were viewing in PP, but, unless this >>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>> changed, Word takes you back to the page where you were when you >>>>>>>> switched >>>>>>>> into Print Preview, which is not acceptable if you've PageDown'd >>>>>>>> through >>>>>>>> dozens of pages before spotting the error. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The question that Tammy is asking is not about how to use the >>>>>>>> magnifier >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> Print Preview but about how to turn it off in order to permit >>>>>>>> editing. >>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>> there is no magnifier, then perhaps clicking in the document >>>>>>>> automatically >>>>>>>> permits editing? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill >>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP (Word) >>>>>>>> Words into Type >>>>>>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA >>>>>>>> http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Janine" <janine(a)ribbonspace.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:OfEB1xErKHA.1800(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> Suzanne, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is now in Full Screen Reading - you can Find/Allow Typing/Track >>>>>>>>> Changes/Comments read superbly on the screen (the larger the >>>>>>>>> better). >>>>>>>>> Read >>>>>>>>> one page or two pages etc. and go to Print Preview when ready to >>>>>>>>> print. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Print Preview is now just what it should always have been Print >>>>>>>>> Preview >>>>>>>>> what you see before you print (as in Printer Software). The new >>>>>>>>> FULL >>>>>>>>> SCREEN READING mode is where you modify the document and it is >>>>>>>>> great. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Let's face it if you didn't know to click the magnifying glass many >>>>>>>>> users >>>>>>>>> never would have. In FULL SCREEN READING mode you can see >>>>>>>>> everything >>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>> clearly and select what you like. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Janine >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:u6jgwsErKHA.6140(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> If editing is no longer possible in Print Preview, a lot of people >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> going to be unhappy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill >>>>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP (Word) >>>>>>>>>> Words into Type >>>>>>>>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA >>>>>>>>>> http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Janine" <janine(a)ribbonspace.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:8C29934E-9327-4B3B-B946-A7AE367D1B6E(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>>>>>>> Tammy >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In 2010 Print Preview does just that only now. >>>>>>>>>>> You are looking for Full Screen Reading (next icon at bottom >>>>>>>>>>> right of >>>>>>>>>>> screen) gives you options to edit/track/comment/highlight etc. So >>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>> really don't need Print Preview unless you really want to Print >>>>>>>>>>> Preview - just clear the brain cells and think Full Screen >>>>>>>>>>> Reading. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have assigned a shortcut key ReadingMode >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Janine >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Tammy" <Tammy(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:2BDFC0DD-CE91-483A-8FEA-49A2DBEC36B5(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi - >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find the Magnifier option when I'm in Print Preview - >>>>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>>>>>>> know where it exists in Word 2010? Please don't tell me it's >>>>>>>>>>>> gone!!! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any guidance! >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >> > > >
From: Tammy on 15 Feb 2010 09:57 Thanks very much, Janine! That did take a little bit to change the way I was thinking. I have never found a use for Full Screen Reading, and turned it off as soon as my first email attachment opened in it. Now, I see, there is no other choice if I want to preview a document, and possibily edit it at the same time. Not sure why this changed (maybe to justify the FSR View? :) JK) , but as long as I can still get to the tool, I'll just have to change my "previewing" habit. Now...what's the purpose of Print Preview? :) Janine, in one of your posts you quoted from 2010 Help - where did you find that? When I try to use Help in the Beta version, I get help topics for 2007... Thanks to everyone else for their comments - really appreciated your input! Kind of glad to find out that there are people who are aware of that great editing tool when previewing docs! Thanks, again! "Janine" wrote: > Tammy > > In 2010 Print Preview does just that only now. > You are looking for Full Screen Reading (next icon at bottom right of > screen) gives you options to edit/track/comment/highlight etc. So you really > don't need Print Preview unless you really want to Print Preview - just > clear the brain cells and think Full Screen Reading. > > I have assigned a shortcut key ReadingMode > > Janine > > "Tammy" <Tammy(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:2BDFC0DD-CE91-483A-8FEA-49A2DBEC36B5(a)microsoft.com... > > Hi - > > > > I can't find the Magnifier option when I'm in Print Preview - does anyone > > know where it exists in Word 2010? Please don't tell me it's gone!!! > > > > Thanks for any guidance! >
From: KRyan on 16 Feb 2010 09:48 Suzanne and Tammy are right. I've been training users for years to use Print Preview and click the Magnifier button to make quick edits before printing. Users will definitely have some questions about this. For 2010, I understand what Janine is saying. For quick edits prior to printing, I'll tell users to click Full Screen Reading View and then choose View Options > Allow Typing. However I'm concerned this view will not be fully WYSIWYG. If any of the Microsoft Word On-Line Help people happens to see this post, I HIGHLY suggest documenting this change somewhere. I searched the Help for 'Print Preview' and all variations thereof, even going out to IE and searching in Bing and Google, and never found a good explanation. Thanks, Kim Ryan technical consultant spartan technology solutions, inc. 'www.spartantechnology.com' (http://www.spartantechnology.com) Stefan Blom;642758 Wrote: > But Full Screen Reading isn't necessarily a WYSIWYG view, which is > supported > by the help topic that you cited: "you also have the option of seeing > the > document as it would appear on a printed page". > > -- > Stefan Blom > Microsoft Word MVP > > > > > __________________________________ > "Janine" <janine(a)ribbonspace.com> wrote in message > news:u0D55oHrKHA.6140(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > No Suzanne, actually Full Screen Reading is where you Allow Typing > Mode > (make edits to document as Tammy has suggested wanting to do). > WYSIWYG > ("seeing the document as it would appear on the printed page") is what > I > have in Full Screen Reading view not sure why you would have a > different > view Suzanne. -- KRyan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ KRyan's Profile: 1497 View this thread: http://www.thecodecage.com/forumz/showthread.php?t=178952 [url="http://www.thecodecage.com"]Microsoft Office Help[/url]
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