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From: John Corliss on 19 Jan 2010 08:03 John Corliss wrote: > M.L. wrote: >> John Corliss wrote: >>> Tim wrote: >>>> Jim S. Witherspoon wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It really doesn't bother me if a program is built on .NET, Java, GTK, >>>>> Adobe Air, whatever. It's a different matter if it's one of those >>>>> Python things - I haven't gotten a single one working yet. :D >>>> >>>> It will become more and more of a non-issue on Windows machines too. >>>> Both >>>> Vista and Windows 7 come with it as part of their installation. >>>> Many, I'd >>>> guess most, XP machines have it too, either installed through having >>>> automatic updates turned on, or installed along with something >>>> else... ATI >>>> video drivers for instance. >>> >>> Well, I for one don't have any version of dotnet installed on my system >>> and I have no trouble doing without it. >>> >>> Maybe if I had a newer computer, it wouldn't be such a big issue for me >>> though. >> >> John, didn't you once say you installed .NET on your computer for >> compatibility with your digital camera software? > > That's correct. I had to install it along with Canon's Zoombrowser EX. > Eventually I got sick and tired of that program's slow performance, > realized that if I could find a replacement in freeware for it, I would > be able to uninstall dotnet 2 as well. I settled on Cam2PC: > > http://www.nabocorp.com/cam2pc/freeware.php > > and was both able to replace both Zoombrowser EX with a superior program > as well as to remove dotnet 2. > > So I am, once again, dotnet free. And since my computer is extremely > long in the tooth, that's a must. Eh... make that "both replace", not "replace both". 80)> -- John Corliss BS206. I block all Google Groups posts due to Googlespam, and as many posts from anonymous remailers (like x-privat.org for eg.) as possible due to forgeries posted through them. No ad, cd, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares OR warez for me, please.
From: Sammy Luter on 19 Jan 2010 09:59 On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:01:28 -0800, John Corliss wrote: > Well, *SHADDUP*
From: Caesar Romano on 19 Jan 2010 11:02 On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 05:00:32 -0800, John Corliss <q34wsk20(a)yahoo.com> wrote Re Re: about .NET programs / Mono: >> John, didn't you once say you installed .NET on your computer for >> compatibility with your digital camera software? > >That's correct. I had to install it along with Canon's Zoombrowser EX. >Eventually I got sick and tired of that program's slow performance, >realized that if I could find a replacement in freeware for it, I would >be able to uninstall dotnet 2 as well. I settled on Cam2PC: > > http://www.nabocorp.com/cam2pc/freeware.php > >and was both able to replace both Zoombrowser EX with a superior program >as well as to remove dotnet 2. > >So I am, once again, dotnet free. And since my computer is extremely >long in the tooth, that's a must. Way to go John! -- Work is the curse of the drinking class.
From: Sammy Luter on 19 Jan 2010 11:23 On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 05:00:32 -0800, John Corliss wrote: > So I am, once again, dotnet free. And since my computer is extremely > long in the tooth, that's a must. Welfare and your naval pension don't go very far do they
From: Craig on 19 Jan 2010 12:53
On 01/18/2010 06:42 PM, Jim S. Witherspoon wrote: > It really doesn't bother me if a program is built on .NET, Java, GTK, Adobe > Air, whatever. Soz to hear about your python problems <grin>. Technically, I don't have an issue with these platforms. From what little I understand, they do make for a good developer's platform and they are free, as in free beer. I do "worry" (as much as one can regarding this stuff) about the effects that their licensing can have on developers & users alike (free speech). In the past, MS has used unlawful & anti-market tactics to drive other projects out of business. And for the past few years MS, like Rambus & SCO before it, has focused its attention on filing intellectual property lawsuits (e.g. the Tom Tom "fat suit"). This is the same company whose WGA "technology" has mistakenly hobbled authentic MSOS installs and whose DRM decides what you may or may not use on your system. MS is the company that did everything it could to literally buy the vote to steam-roll the ISO's acceptance of their proprietary changes to the XML format. Put all these elements together and the risk I see to using something like Mono (which is/isn't foss depending on what you read) is that developers and users are depending on the kindness of MS in not filing a fistful of IP infringement cases. On a related note, you can thank Adobe & MS for sidelining html5's video element. I don't have a problem with libraries. I'm deeply suspicious of libraries whose licensing depends on the kindness of Microsoft & similar anti-market forces. -- -Craig |