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From: D.M. Procida on 26 Sep 2006 18:03 David Baxter <taemar(a)spamblock.atlanticrealm.com> wrote: > D.M. Procida wrote: > > The PowerMac G5s and the iMac G5s, just in the complexity > > of their cooling systems, make it quite clear that it's an issue of > > prime importance. > > Sorry, but I really have to disagree. Comparing a PowerMac G5 tower with > a MacBook Pro is not a fair comparison. Also not fair is deleting the everything else I've put forward in my argument and treating just one sentence as if it were the whole. > If (and I say if, because I don't own a MacBook Pro so I'm not speaking > from first-hand experience) MacBook Pros really are getting so hot that > hard drives are failing, then that is a serious issue. Full stop. And your evidence that hard disk drives in MacBook Pros are failing due to excessive heat is...? Daniele
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 26 Sep 2006 18:10 On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:03:28 +0100, real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) wrote: >David Baxter <taemar(a)spamblock.atlanticrealm.com> wrote: > >> If (and I say if, because I don't own a MacBook Pro so I'm not speaking >> from first-hand experience) MacBook Pros really are getting so hot that >> hard drives are failing, then that is a serious issue. Full stop. > >And your evidence that hard disk drives in MacBook Pros are failing due >to excessive heat is...? You noticed the "If"s, of course. Evidence is Ian. So that's three hard drive in at least one MacBook Pro, with circumstantial "Blimey that was hot" comments. Why so argumentative all the time? Laptops are demons for excess heat, with so little space for airflow and the need for fans to be both small and quiet. It's not a tricky concept. Cheers - Jaimie -- The glass, being topologically equivalent to a finite flat sheet, can be neither "full" nor "empty" : it may or may not have some beer balanced on it. - Oldbloke, urs
From: David Baxter on 26 Sep 2006 18:21 D.M. Procida wrote: >> Sorry, but I really have to disagree. Comparing a PowerMac G5 tower with >> a MacBook Pro is not a fair comparison. > > Also not fair is deleting the everything else I've put forward in my > argument and treating just one sentence as if it were the whole. Regardless of what I've deleted, your original comparison is still not a fair one. I was simply picking up on the one point you made there which I disagreed with - I'm leaving alonethe rest of the you vs. Odie bit. >> If (and I say if, because I don't own a MacBook Pro so I'm not speaking >> from first-hand experience) MacBook Pros really are getting so hot that >> hard drives are failing, then that is a serious issue. Full stop. > > And your evidence that hard disk drives in MacBook Pros are failing due > to excessive heat is...? Oh c'mon now. Did you read the bit in the brackets, and the "If" beforehand? Dave -- (remove spamblock or reply group)
From: Ian McCall on 26 Sep 2006 18:35 On 2006-09-26 23:03:28 +0100, real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) said: > And your evidence that hard disk drives in MacBook Pros are failing due > to excessive heat is...? <small cough> That would be me then. Look at the pattern - each time the machine has been on for several hours, each time the machine has been boiling hot. Because of various kids illnesses we keep thermometers around the place - the external case temperature about five minutes after the drive failure we measured at 39C. 39C, external. That's ludicrous, god knows what it was internal. I am utterly convinced the problem is heat. There is, literally, nothing else in common between the 1.83Ghz that failed repeatedly for me and this new 2.0Ghz that's just failed now. I've decided to ask for my money back. It's going to be a complicated thing because this all went via insurance and I don' know if they'll necessarily give me just straight cash. But honestly, I have no faith in the current generation of MacBook Pros. Actually no, that's not quite true. I have perfect faith in their ability to overheat and fail. Cheers, Ian
From: Andrew Collier on 26 Sep 2006 18:49
In article <1hmanwz.10xgklv1nmakc6N%usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk>, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote: > David Baxter <taemar(a)spamblock.atlanticrealm.com> wrote: > > > D.M. Procida wrote: > > > The PowerMac G5s and the iMac G5s, just in the complexity > > > of their cooling systems, make it quite clear that it's an issue of > > > prime importance. > > > > Sorry, but I really have to disagree. Comparing a PowerMac G5 tower with > > a MacBook Pro is not a fair comparison. One is a large tower with plenty > > of room for cooling and airflow, the other is not. > > Which one?? MacBook Pro == large tower? Andrew -- --- Andrew Collier ---- To reply by email, please use: ---- http://www.intensity.org.uk/ --- 'andrew {at} intensity.org.uk' -- Have you lost your Marbles? http://www.marillion.com/ |