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From: mike on 17 Dec 2009 13:37 I installed copernic desktop search version 2 per advice in a recent thread. It works great...except...I can't use it... I have about 100GB of stuff that I've downloaded over the years on an external usb drive that's turned off most of the time. Copernic makes it much easer to search for that legacy driver I forgot where I saved... But, Copernic seems to deal poorly with change. I don't want it indexed on the fly. I don't even want any part of it to run until I ask for a search. I can't reindex it when I need it..it ran all day yesterday and still didn't get half way thru. 99.99% of the files never change. I'd like to be able to tell it which directory to rescan/update and leave the other stuff in the database alone. I want it to give me the search results even when the usb drive is turned off. When I changed the indexing options to not scan a drive, then turned it back on, coperinic lost the ability to find anything on that drive without a rescan. But the directory containing the database didn't change size...it's still 700MB. Is there a freeware alternative, or way to configure copernic, so that I can create a FIXED database and update just specific parts of it on command? I want search results for drives that are currently not mounted. The search features of copernic are just what I want. Problem is the database features. Thanks, mike
From: Duddits on 17 Dec 2009 17:36 On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:37:28 -0800, mike <spamme0(a)go.com> wrote: >I installed copernic desktop search version 2 >per advice in a recent thread. > >It works great...except...I can't use it... > >I have about 100GB of stuff that I've downloaded over >the years on an external usb drive that's turned off most of the time. >Copernic makes it much easer to search for that legacy driver >I forgot where I saved... > >But, Copernic seems to deal poorly with change. >I don't want it indexed on the fly. >I don't even want any part of it to run until I ask for >a search. >I can't reindex it when I need it..it ran all day yesterday >and still didn't get half way thru. >99.99% of the files never change. > >I'd like to be able to tell it which directory to rescan/update >and leave the other stuff in the database alone. >I want it to give me the search results even when the usb drive >is turned off. > >When I changed the indexing options to not scan a drive, >then turned it back on, coperinic lost the ability to find >anything on that drive without a rescan. But the directory >containing the database didn't change size...it's still 700MB. > snip Index Your Files will do what you want. http://www.indexyourfiles.com/index.html Hasn't been updated in a while so any bugs can be considered features;-) It's fast, portable and easy to use. >Thanks, mike You're welcome Dud -- Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence. Leonard McCoy
From: Franklin on 17 Dec 2009 18:15 mike wrote: > I installed copernic desktop search version 2 > per advice in a recent thread. > > It works great...except...I can't use it... > > I have about 100GB of stuff that I've downloaded over > the years on an external usb drive that's turned off most of the time. > Copernic makes it much easer to search for that legacy driver > I forgot where I saved... > > But, Copernic seems to deal poorly with change. > I don't want it indexed on the fly. > I don't even want any part of it to run until I ask for > a search. > I can't reindex it when I need it..it ran all day yesterday > and still didn't get half way thru. > 99.99% of the files never change. > > I'd like to be able to tell it which directory to rescan/update > and leave the other stuff in the database alone. > I want it to give me the search results even when the usb drive > is turned off. > > When I changed the indexing options to not scan a drive, > then turned it back on, coperinic lost the ability to find > anything on that drive without a rescan. But the directory > containing the database didn't change size...it's still 700MB. > > Is there a freeware alternative, or way to configure copernic, > so that I can create a FIXED database and update just specific > parts of it on command? I want search results for drives that > are currently not mounted. > > The search features of copernic are just what I want. > Problem is the database features. > > Thanks, mike Copernic will retain its indexes and can be set to scan only on demand however it indexes _content_ as well as file names. Maybe you need only a file name search. Consider Locate32 or Index Your Files. They scan on demand and will save thier index for future searches. The utility Everything is very fast as it accesses NTFS data but it doesn't have many search features. That 100 GB is not a lot. You might use a fast search to go through the folders each time you need to find something. Agent Ransack and TrackerV3 (later called XYplorer) may be old but are much faster than native Windows search. http://locate32.webhop.org/ http://www.indexyourfiles.com/ http://www.voidtools.com/ http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/ last freeware TrackerV3 ?
From: mike on 17 Dec 2009 20:36 Franklin wrote: > mike wrote: > >> I installed copernic desktop search version 2 >> per advice in a recent thread. >> >> It works great...except...I can't use it... >> >> I have about 100GB of stuff that I've downloaded over >> the years on an external usb drive that's turned off most of the time. >> Copernic makes it much easer to search for that legacy driver >> I forgot where I saved... >> >> But, Copernic seems to deal poorly with change. >> I don't want it indexed on the fly. >> I don't even want any part of it to run until I ask for >> a search. >> I can't reindex it when I need it..it ran all day yesterday >> and still didn't get half way thru. >> 99.99% of the files never change. >> >> I'd like to be able to tell it which directory to rescan/update >> and leave the other stuff in the database alone. >> I want it to give me the search results even when the usb drive >> is turned off. >> >> When I changed the indexing options to not scan a drive, >> then turned it back on, coperinic lost the ability to find >> anything on that drive without a rescan. But the directory >> containing the database didn't change size...it's still 700MB. >> >> Is there a freeware alternative, or way to configure copernic, >> so that I can create a FIXED database and update just specific >> parts of it on command? I want search results for drives that >> are currently not mounted. >> >> The search features of copernic are just what I want. >> Problem is the database features. >> >> Thanks, mike > > Copernic will retain its indexes and can be set to scan only on demand > however it indexes _content_ as well as file names. I really appreciated the content search features of copernic. I've been using the built-in search features in total commander. Works OK for file name searches. Also searches inside zip and other archives. My problem with copernic is that the scan on demand insists on searching the whole computer...or at least the directories I specify. But if I try to search/update only the small part of the data that changed, it forgets all the rest. If there's a way to update just one directory without losing all the rest, that would work fine. I'm not sure, but looks like if I set it for continuous monitor, it's gonna forget all the stuff that's currently offline. I have an ancient program called catfish16 that saves its index. That's pretty quick for filename searches. But I'm getting so old and forgetful that the content search is looking more attractive. And the complex search terms help a lot. If you wanna have some fun, try searching for a driver for a zip disk inside a zip archive with only one simple search term. > > Maybe you need only a file name search. Consider Locate32 or Index Your > Files. They scan on demand and will save thier index for future > searches. > > The utility Everything is very fast as it accesses NTFS data but it > doesn't have many search features. > > That 100 GB is not a lot. You might use a fast search to go through the > folders each time you need to find something. Agent Ransack and > TrackerV3 (later called XYplorer) may be old but are much faster than > native Windows search. > > http://locate32.webhop.org/ > http://www.indexyourfiles.com/ > http://www.voidtools.com/ > http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/ > last freeware TrackerV3 ? Bottom line is that I've had a taste of copernic and I LIKE it. If I could get that search capability AND the ability to update a tiny part of the index without redoing the whole thing, I'd be a happy camper. Still hoping that it can do that and it's just operator error on my part. I can't be the first person in history to bump up against this issue. mike
From: Mike Mills on 17 Dec 2009 20:47
Duddits <Duddits(a)Dreamcatcher.com> wrote in news:cdcli55r13qq8qn1mjo23cp6ibvm90i2vp(a)4ax.com: > On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:37:28 -0800, mike <spamme0(a)go.com> wrote: > >>I installed copernic desktop search version 2 >>per advice in a recent thread. >> >>It works great...except...I can't use it... >> >>I have about 100GB of stuff that I've downloaded over >>the years on an external usb drive that's turned off most of the >>time. Copernic makes it much easer to search for that legacy >>driver I forgot where I saved... >> >>But, Copernic seems to deal poorly with change. >>I don't want it indexed on the fly. >>I don't even want any part of it to run until I ask for >>a search. >>I can't reindex it when I need it..it ran all day yesterday >>and still didn't get half way thru. >>99.99% of the files never change. Rafael Castro the programmer is working on a new version. As a beta tester, I know of no bugs in the latest , or any published version of IYF. Please tell me if you know of any. The new updates are oriented at increased speed and ease of use. One of the great features of IYF is that it can make an index , and then the program and index together with the selected directories to CD or DVD, and searched *directly on the CD or DVD. There is no other freeware application that will do that. > snip > Index Your Files will do what you want. > http://www.indexyourfiles.com/index.html > Hasn't been updated in a while so any bugs can be considered > features;-) It's fast, portable and easy to use. > >>Thanks, mike > > You're welcome > > Dud |