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From: Greg Smith on 12 Jul 2010 17:16 Peter Eisentraut wrote: > I think it's better to share code that doesn't mean project guidelines > and solicit advice rather than not to share anything. > I feel the assumption that code is so valuable that it should be shared regardless of whether it meets conventions is a flawed one for this project. There are already dozens, if not hundreds, of useful patch submissions that have been sent to this list, consumed time, and then gone nowhere because they didn't happen in a way that the community was able to integrate them properly. For anyone who isn't producing commiter quality patches, the process is far more important than the code if you want to get something non-trivial accomplished. Also, producing code in whatever format you want and dumping that on the community so that people like David Fetter waste their time cleaning it up is not the way the GSoC work is supposed to happen. I didn't want any other current or potential future participants in that program to get the wrong idea from that example. There is a brief "get to know the community" period at the beginning of the summer schedule. I think that next year this project would be well served to give each student a small patch to review during that time, as a formal intro to the community process. The tendency among students to just wander off coding without doing any interaction like that is both common and counterproductive, given how patches to PostgreSQL actually shuffle along toward becoming commit quality code. Far as I'm concerned, a day spent working with the patch review checklist on someone else's patch pays for itself tenfold when it comes time to produce patches that others will be able to review. -- Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant US Baltimore, MD PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support greg(a)2ndQuadrant.com www.2ndQuadrant.us -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: Tom Lane on 12 Jul 2010 18:59 Greg Smith <greg(a)2ndquadrant.com> writes: > There is a brief "get to know the community" period at the beginning of > the summer schedule. I think that next year this project would be well > served to give each student a small patch to review during that time, as > a formal intro to the community process. The tendency among students to > just wander off coding without doing any interaction like that is both > common and counterproductive, given how patches to PostgreSQL actually > shuffle along toward becoming commit quality code. Far as I'm > concerned, a day spent working with the patch review checklist on > someone else's patch pays for itself tenfold when it comes time to > produce patches that others will be able to review. That seems like a great idea. Is there a specific period when that's supposed to happen for GSoC students? Can we arrange for a commitfest to be running then? (I guess it'd need to be early in the fest, else the low-hanging fruit will be gone already.) regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: Boxuan Zhai on 15 Jul 2010 20:26 Dear Hackers I considered my situation. And I found that I didn't communicate well with you, as makes you have little confidence on my project. Most of the time I just work by myself and not report to you frequently. I always want to finish a solid stage progress before do a submission. This may be a bad habit in the remote project. In fact, I have a detailed design on how to implement the command and I am working hard these days to catch the schedule. In my design, 1. the merge command is firstly transformed to a "MergeStmt" node in parser. And analyzer will generate a left out join query as the top query (or main query). This query is similar to a SELECT command query, but I set target relation in it. The top query will drive the scanning and joining over target and source tables. The merge actions are transformed into lower level queries. I create a Query node for each of them and append them in a newly create List field mergeActQry. The action queries have different command type and specific target list and qual list, according to their declaration by user. But they all share the same range table. This is because we don't need the action queries to be planned latter. The joining strategy is decided by the top query. We are only interest in their specific action qualifications. In other words, these action queries are only containers for their target list and qualifications. 2. When the query is ready, it will be send to rewriter. In this part, we can call RewriteQuery() to handle the action queries. The UPDATE action will trigger rules on UPDATE, and so on. What need to be noticed are: 1. the actions of the same type should not be rewritten repeatedly. If there are two UPDATE actions in merge command, we should not trigger the ON UPDATE rules twice. 2. if an action type is fully replaced by rules, we should remove all actions of this type from the action list. Rewriter will also do some process on the target list of each action. The first submission has finished the above part. 3. In planner, the top level query is handled in a normal way. Since it has almost the same structure as a SELECT query, the planner() function can work on it straight forward. However, we need a small change here. The merge command has a target relation, which need a ctid junk attribute in the target list. The ctid is required by the UPDATE and DELETE actions. Besides, for each of the action queries, we also need to create a Plan node. We don't need to do a full plan on the action queries. The crucial point is to preprocess the target list and qualification of each action. (Explanation for this point. The execution of a merge action is composed by two parts. The top plan will be executed in the main loop, and return the joined tuples one by one. And a action will apply its qualification on the returned tuples. If succeed, it will take the action and do corresponding modification on the target table. Thus, even we have a Plan node created for each action, we don't want to throw it directly into Planner() function. That will generate a new plan over the tables in Range Table, which is very probably different with the top-level plan. If we run the action plans directly, they will be confilict with each other). I create a function merge_action_planner() to do this job. This part is added at the end of standard_planner(). After that, all the plans of merge actions are linked into a new List filed in PlannedStmt result of the top plan. 4. When planner is finished, the plan will be send to executor through PortalRun(). As a new command, merge will chose the PORTAL_MULTI_QUERY strategy, and be sent to ProcessQuery() function. 5. As in the ExecutorStart() part, we need to set junkfilter for merge command, since we have a ctid junk attr in target list. And, the merge action plans should also be initialized and transformed into PlanState nodes. However, the initialization over action plan is only focus on the target list and quals. We don't need other part of traditional plan initialization, since these action plans are not for scanning or joining (this is the job of top plan). We only want to transform the action information into standard format that can be used by qualification evaluator in executor. I HAVE DONE ALL THE ABOVE IN A SECOND SUBMISSION. 6. In ExecutorRun() part, the top plan will be passed into ExecutePlan(). The action planstates can be found in the estate->es_plannedstmt field. The top plan can return tuples of the left out join on source table and target table. (I can see the tuple be returned in my codes). Thus, the design is correct. At least the top plan can do its work well. In the junkfilter, if we can find a non-null ctid, it is a matched tuple, or else, it is a NOT MATCHED tuple. Then we need to evaluate the additional quals of the actions one by one. If the evaluations of one action succeed, we will take this action and skip the remaining ones. Since the target list and qual expressions are all processed by rewriter, planner and InitPlan(), I think they will be accepted by the ExecQual() function without many problems. This is the last step, and I am still working on it. PS: Heikki asked me about what the "EXPLAIN MERGE ..." command will do. Well, I have not test it, but it may through an error or just explain the top plan, since I put the action plans in a new field, which cannot be recognized by old functions. Thanks! Yours Boxuan.
From: Heikki Linnakangas on 16 Jul 2010 05:53 On 16/07/10 12:26, Boxuan Zhai wrote: > For the EXPLAIN MERGE command, I expect it to return a result similar to > that of a SELECT command. > > I think the EXPLAIN command is to show how the tables in a query is scaned > and joined. In my design, the merge command will generate a top-level query > (and plan) as the main query. It is in fact a left join select query over > the source and target tables. This main query (plan) decides how the tables > are scanned. The merge actions will not effect this process. So when we > explain the merge command, a similar result will be returned. > > For example the command > EXPLAIN > MERGE INTO Stock USING Sale ON Stock.stock_id = Sale.sale_id > WHEN MATCHED THEN UPDATE SET balance = balance + sale.vol; > WHEN .... > ..... > > Will return a result just like that of the following command: > > EXPLAIN > SELECT * FROM Sale LEFT JOIN Stock ON stock_id = sale_id; You really need to look at the changes in 9.0 in this area, you now have a Update/Delete/Insert node (implemented in src/backend/executor/nodeModifyTable.c) at the top of the plan for update/insert/delete commands: postgres=# explain UPDATE foo SET id = 456 WHERE id = 123; QUERY PLAN ----------------------------------------------------------- Update (cost=0.00..40.00 rows=12 width=6) -> Seq Scan on foo (cost=0.00..40.00 rows=12 width=6) Filter: (id = 123) (3 rows) I would expect there to be a Merge node similar to that, with Update/Insert/Delete subnodes for each action. -- Heikki Linnakangas EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: Boxuan Zhai on 16 Jul 2010 05:26
Hi, For the EXPLAIN MERGE command, I expect it to return a result similar to that of a SELECT command. I think the EXPLAIN command is to show how the tables in a query is scaned and joined. In my design, the merge command will generate a top-level query (and plan) as the main query. It is in fact a left join select query over the source and target tables. This main query (plan) decides how the tables are scanned. The merge actions will not effect this process. So when we explain the merge command, a similar result will be returned. For example the command EXPLAIN MERGE INTO Stock USING Sale ON Stock.stock_id = Sale.sale_id WHEN MATCHED THEN UPDATE SET balance = balance + sale.vol; WHEN .... ...... Will return a result just like that of the following command: EXPLAIN SELECT * FROM Sale LEFT JOIN Stock ON stock_id = sale_id; Yours Boxuan. 2010/7/16 Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas(a)enterprisedb.com> > On 16/07/10 03:26, Boxuan Zhai wrote: > >> PS: Heikki asked me about what the "EXPLAIN MERGE ..." command will do. >> Well, I have not test it, but it may through an error or just explain the >> top plan, since I put the action plans in a new field, which cannot be >> recognized by old functions. >> > > I meant what EXPLAIN MERGE output will look like after the project is > finished, not what it will do at this stage. I was trying to get a picture > of how you're thinking to implement the executor, what nodes there is in a > MERGE plan. > > -- > Heikki Linnakangas > > EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com > |