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From: zoara on 10 Jul 2010 18:54
Danny T <DannyTucsm(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> David Empson <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>> zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Odd. My colleague's iPhone 4 works correctly.
>>
>> If so, that is the only example I've seen or heard of on any iPhone
>> running iOS 4.
>>
>> To confirm: on your colleague's iPhone 4, if the screen is off and
> > you
>> double-click the home button, does it not only show the unlock
> > screen,
>> but also shows the iPod controls?
>>
>> (That is how every iPhone and iPod Touch behaved when running iOS
>> 3.1.3
>> or earlier, and so far, none running iOS 4 show the iPod controls for
>> that particular action.)
>
> To refine this a little (I'm tired and maybe not following this too
> well)...
>
> On my iPhone 4, running iOS4:
>
> If the iPod is *playing* and I switch off (click the top on/off
> button)
> the screen, then from a blank screen double click the home button -
> then
> I get the iPod controls on the home screen as well as the slide to
> unlock graphic.

That's what I tested on my colleague's iPhone 4, and it works that way.

> If the iPod is *not* playing then a double click on the home button
> just
> gives the slide to unlock graphic with no iPod controls.

I didn't test this. I didn't even realise it showed the controls in
iPhone OS 3.1.2 (which it does).

-z-


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From: David Empson on 10 Jul 2010 21:36
Danny T <DannyTucsm(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> David Empson <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Odd. My colleague's iPhone 4 works correctly.
> >
> > If so, that is the only example I've seen or heard of on any iPhone
> > running iOS 4.
> >
> > To confirm: on your colleague's iPhone 4, if the screen is off and you
> > double-click the home button, does it not only show the unlock screen,
> > but also shows the iPod controls?
> >
> > (That is how every iPhone and iPod Touch behaved when running iOS
> > 3.1.3
> > or earlier, and so far, none running iOS 4 show the iPod controls for
> > that particular action.)
>
> To refine this a little (I'm tired and maybe not following this too
> well)...
>
> On my iPhone 4, running iOS4:
>
> If the iPod is *playing* and I switch off (click the top on/off button)
> the screen, then from a blank screen double click the home button - then
> I get the iPod controls on the home screen as well as the slide to
> unlock graphic.
>
> If the iPod is *not* playing then a double click on the home button just
> gives the slide to unlock graphic with no iPod controls.

Ah, that is a subtle distinction I didn't spot.

It is still a nuisance. If I've paused the music, do anything else on
the iPhone and let the screen sleep (or push the on/off button), then I
want to resume playing the music, it is a little harder to get to the
iPod controls than it was under iOS 3.

I'll amend my bug report accordingly. Thanks.

--
David Empson
dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: Pd on 11 Jul 2010 10:03
David Empson <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

> Lynn W <lynn.williamson(a)FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Double click on my iPhone while awake gives me Favourites (that is how it
> > was set in Preferences). Double Click from asleep only unlocks.
> > iPhone 3G 16GB Version 4.0 (8A293) Model B496B
>
> Your observation about double click from sleep is what I wanted to know,
> so thank you for that. (Double-click while awake isn't relevant to the
> issue.)
>
> I now know that the behaviour is consistent across the iPhone 3G, iPhone
> 3GS, 2nd gen iPod Touch and 3rd gen iPod Touch (all running iOS 4).
>
> I'd still like to hear from anyone with an iPhone 4.

iPhone 4
- double-click same as single-click, just shows swipe to unlock.
- Triple-click: swipe to unlock and iPod controls.
- double-click, pause, needs another double click to get iPod controls.

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Pd
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 19 Jul 2010 17:10
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 11:31:23 +0100, usenet(a)trooperlooper.co.uk.invalid
(Trooper) wrote:

>David Empson <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
>> Lynn W <lynn.williamson(a)FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Double click on my iPhone while awake gives me Favourites (that is how it
>> > was set in Preferences). Double Click from asleep only unlocks.
>> > iPhone 3G 16GB Version 4.0 (8A293) Model B496B
>>
>> Your observation about double click from sleep is what I wanted to know,
>> so thank you for that. (Double-click while awake isn't relevant to the
>> issue.)
>>
>> I now know that the behaviour is consistent across the iPhone 3G, iPhone
>> 3GS, 2nd gen iPod Touch and 3rd gen iPod Touch (all running iOS 4).
>>
>> I'd still like to hear from anyone with an iPhone 4.
>>
>> I'd also like to know if anyone running iOS 4 (on any device) DOESN'T
>> see this issue, i.e. double-click from screen off brings up the iPod
>> controls rather than just showing the unlock screen.
>
>Confirmed the same problem here on a 16Gb iPhone 4.

I don't suppose 4.0.1 fixed this, did it?

Cheers - Jaimie
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From: David Empson on 19 Jul 2010 17:29
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 11:31:23 +0100, usenet(a)trooperlooper.co.uk.invalid
> (Trooper) wrote:
>
> >David Empson <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> >
> >> Lynn W <lynn.williamson(a)FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Double click on my iPhone while awake gives me Favourites (that is how it
> >> > was set in Preferences). Double Click from asleep only unlocks.
> >> > iPhone 3G 16GB Version 4.0 (8A293) Model B496B
> >>
> >> Your observation about double click from sleep is what I wanted to know,
> >> so thank you for that. (Double-click while awake isn't relevant to the
> >> issue.)
> >>
> >> I now know that the behaviour is consistent across the iPhone 3G, iPhone
> >> 3GS, 2nd gen iPod Touch and 3rd gen iPod Touch (all running iOS 4).
> >>
> >> I'd still like to hear from anyone with an iPhone 4.
> >>
> >> I'd also like to know if anyone running iOS 4 (on any device) DOESN'T
> >> see this issue, i.e. double-click from screen off brings up the iPod
> >> controls rather than just showing the unlock screen.
> >
> >Confirmed the same problem here on a 16Gb iPhone 4.
>
> I don't suppose 4.0.1 fixed this, did it?

No, and I haven't had further comments from Apple on my bug report yet.

4.0.1 was a targetted bug fix specifically for the signal strength bars,
which might have also fixed some minor iPhone-specific bugs. There was
no 4.0.1 for the iPod Touch, and the double-click from screen off bug
applies to everything running iOS 4 or 4.0.1 (and the iPad running iOS
3.2 - haven't tried 3.2.1 yet but I expect the same).

--
David Empson
dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
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