From: owl on
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Fa-groon <fa-groon(a)mad.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:30:36 -0700, owl wrote
> (in article <sxbv7SR.g0(a)rooftop.invalid>):
>
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Fa-groon <fa-groon(a)mad.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Look jerk, I've used everything: Powerpoint, Keynote, OO, even Aldus
>>> Persuasion. Keynote is BY FAR the best. It just happens to be a Mac
>>> program,
>>> but it would be superior to Powerpoint (and every other alternative) even
>>> if
>>> it were a piece of perpetually unfinished Linux freeware!
>>
>>
>> Are you taking the position that some unfinished Linux freeware might
>> be better than anything else in its class?
>>
>
> My point is that it is irrelevant that the best presentation software is made
> by Apple and Keynote would the best out there EVEN if it were a piece of
> unfinished Linux freeware.
>

So then what you're saying is, regardless of who made it, that would
represent just one example of unfinished Linux freeware being best-in-class?

From: Wes Groleau on
On 04-01-2010 14:14, Fa-groon wrote:
> My point is that it is irrelevant that the best presentation software is made
> by Apple and Keynote would the best out there EVEN if it were a piece of
> unfinished Linux freeware.

If it were unfinished, it would not be what Keynote is.
And if it were on Linux, it would have to be just a little bit
different, no?

So, if it were "a piece of unfinished Linux freeware" then
it wouldn't be Keynote. Hence your hype doesn't really make sense.

--
Wes Groleau

Heroes, Heritage, and History
http://UniGen.us/PGV
From: Fa-groon on
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:46:10 -0700, owl wrote
(in article <sdvbz7.agr9(a)rooftop.invalid>):

> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Fa-groon <fa-groon(a)mad.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:30:36 -0700, owl wrote
>> (in article <sxbv7SR.g0(a)rooftop.invalid>):
>>
>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Fa-groon <fa-groon(a)mad.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Look jerk, I've used everything: Powerpoint, Keynote, OO, even Aldus
>>>> Persuasion. Keynote is BY FAR the best. It just happens to be a Mac
>>>> program,
>>>> but it would be superior to Powerpoint (and every other alternative) even
>>>> if
>>>> it were a piece of perpetually unfinished Linux freeware!
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you taking the position that some unfinished Linux freeware might
>>> be better than anything else in its class?
>>>
>>
>> My point is that it is irrelevant that the best presentation software is
>> made
>> by Apple and Keynote would the best out there EVEN if it were a piece of
>> unfinished Linux freeware.
>>
>
> So then what you're saying is, regardless of who made it, that would
> represent just one example of unfinished Linux freeware being best-in-class?
>

I don't really care about the "Linux connection" it was just an example to
show that Keynote being a Mac program is not the point. The point is that
it's currently the best presentation program out there, and *I* wouldn't care
who made it: Microsoft, Adobe, Apple or some pimply-faced kid sitting in his
bedroom cranking out Open-Source programs for Linux between wanks. It still
would be the best and that's the reason to use it, not because it's Apple.
Apple also makes "Pages" and I don't like it very much and don't use it.
Believe it or not, I find OO to be a much better WP, and Indesign is a much
better page layout program.

From: Fa-groon on
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:59:13 -0700, Wes Groleau wrote
(in article <hp31f2$sv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>):

> On 04-01-2010 14:14, Fa-groon wrote:
>> My point is that it is irrelevant that the best presentation software is
>> made
>> by Apple and Keynote would the best out there EVEN if it were a piece of
>> unfinished Linux freeware.
>
> If it were unfinished, it would not be what Keynote is.
> And if it were on Linux, it would have to be just a little bit
> different, no?
>
> So, if it were "a piece of unfinished Linux freeware" then
> it wouldn't be Keynote. Hence your hype doesn't really make sense.
>
>

It's just an example. My point is that good software is good software where
ever it comes from and I don't consider Keynote the best presentation
software the best out there at the moment merely because it's an Apple
product (which is the accusation I was addressing in this thread anyway). I
use it because it's good and would be the best regardless of its origin.

From: owl on
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Fa-groon <fa-groon(a)mad.com> wrote:

> it's currently the best presentation program out there, and *I* wouldn't care
> who made it: Microsoft, Adobe, Apple or some pimply-faced kid sitting in his
> bedroom cranking out Open-Source programs for Linux between wanks.

Apple-fan sneers at tinkerers. That borders on blasphemy, given Apple's start
as a hippie-hacker project in a garage.