From: owl on 1 Apr 2010 14:46 In comp.os.linux.advocacy Fa-groon <fa-groon(a)mad.com> wrote: > On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:30:36 -0700, owl wrote > (in article <sxbv7SR.g0(a)rooftop.invalid>): > >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Fa-groon <fa-groon(a)mad.com> wrote: >>> >>> Look jerk, I've used everything: Powerpoint, Keynote, OO, even Aldus >>> Persuasion. Keynote is BY FAR the best. It just happens to be a Mac >>> program, >>> but it would be superior to Powerpoint (and every other alternative) even >>> if >>> it were a piece of perpetually unfinished Linux freeware! >> >> >> Are you taking the position that some unfinished Linux freeware might >> be better than anything else in its class? >> > > My point is that it is irrelevant that the best presentation software is made > by Apple and Keynote would the best out there EVEN if it were a piece of > unfinished Linux freeware. > So then what you're saying is, regardless of who made it, that would represent just one example of unfinished Linux freeware being best-in-class?
From: Wes Groleau on 1 Apr 2010 16:59 On 04-01-2010 14:14, Fa-groon wrote: > My point is that it is irrelevant that the best presentation software is made > by Apple and Keynote would the best out there EVEN if it were a piece of > unfinished Linux freeware. If it were unfinished, it would not be what Keynote is. And if it were on Linux, it would have to be just a little bit different, no? So, if it were "a piece of unfinished Linux freeware" then it wouldn't be Keynote. Hence your hype doesn't really make sense. -- Wes Groleau Heroes, Heritage, and History http://UniGen.us/PGV
From: Fa-groon on 1 Apr 2010 19:18 On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:46:10 -0700, owl wrote (in article <sdvbz7.agr9(a)rooftop.invalid>): > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Fa-groon <fa-groon(a)mad.com> wrote: >> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:30:36 -0700, owl wrote >> (in article <sxbv7SR.g0(a)rooftop.invalid>): >> >>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Fa-groon <fa-groon(a)mad.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Look jerk, I've used everything: Powerpoint, Keynote, OO, even Aldus >>>> Persuasion. Keynote is BY FAR the best. It just happens to be a Mac >>>> program, >>>> but it would be superior to Powerpoint (and every other alternative) even >>>> if >>>> it were a piece of perpetually unfinished Linux freeware! >>> >>> >>> Are you taking the position that some unfinished Linux freeware might >>> be better than anything else in its class? >>> >> >> My point is that it is irrelevant that the best presentation software is >> made >> by Apple and Keynote would the best out there EVEN if it were a piece of >> unfinished Linux freeware. >> > > So then what you're saying is, regardless of who made it, that would > represent just one example of unfinished Linux freeware being best-in-class? > I don't really care about the "Linux connection" it was just an example to show that Keynote being a Mac program is not the point. The point is that it's currently the best presentation program out there, and *I* wouldn't care who made it: Microsoft, Adobe, Apple or some pimply-faced kid sitting in his bedroom cranking out Open-Source programs for Linux between wanks. It still would be the best and that's the reason to use it, not because it's Apple. Apple also makes "Pages" and I don't like it very much and don't use it. Believe it or not, I find OO to be a much better WP, and Indesign is a much better page layout program.
From: Fa-groon on 1 Apr 2010 19:21 On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:59:13 -0700, Wes Groleau wrote (in article <hp31f2$sv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>): > On 04-01-2010 14:14, Fa-groon wrote: >> My point is that it is irrelevant that the best presentation software is >> made >> by Apple and Keynote would the best out there EVEN if it were a piece of >> unfinished Linux freeware. > > If it were unfinished, it would not be what Keynote is. > And if it were on Linux, it would have to be just a little bit > different, no? > > So, if it were "a piece of unfinished Linux freeware" then > it wouldn't be Keynote. Hence your hype doesn't really make sense. > > It's just an example. My point is that good software is good software where ever it comes from and I don't consider Keynote the best presentation software the best out there at the moment merely because it's an Apple product (which is the accusation I was addressing in this thread anyway). I use it because it's good and would be the best regardless of its origin.
From: owl on 2 Apr 2010 19:04
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Fa-groon <fa-groon(a)mad.com> wrote: > it's currently the best presentation program out there, and *I* wouldn't care > who made it: Microsoft, Adobe, Apple or some pimply-faced kid sitting in his > bedroom cranking out Open-Source programs for Linux between wanks. Apple-fan sneers at tinkerers. That borders on blasphemy, given Apple's start as a hippie-hacker project in a garage. |