From: Wes Groleau on
On 04-08-2010 12:06, Conor wrote:
> On 08/04/2010 15:48, erilar wrote:
>> This just came up on a harp list I belong to and I thought this was a
>> good place to throw it into.
>>
>> Harpists and other musicians often carry pretty heavy gig books around,
>> and the thought of being able to use an iPad for a self-lighting
>> replacement just came up on that list.
>
> Nope. Too small, won't sit on a standard music stand and its too faffy
> to change a page mid-piece.

1024 x 768 is too small? Even if the sheets can be reformatted?

What is a standard music stand? I've only seen and used two kinds.
They are VERY different, but either one can hold an iPad.

What does "faffy" mean? If iPad is anything like iPod/iPhone,
changing pages is a heck of a lot easier than turning a paper
page. I know two musicians who use MacBooks for their lead sheets.
(But I don't know what software they use to display them.)

I can imagine audio analysis software that listens to the music
and guesses where in the song you are--with touch controls on
screen to override in case the software screws up.

--
Wes Groleau

He that complies against his will is of the same opinion still.
-- Samuel Butler, 1612-1680
From: erilar on
In article <fmoore-8EBEBF.11391108042010(a)feeder.eternal-september.org>,
Fred Moore <fmoore(a)gcfn.org> wrote:

> In article <drache-2A5444.09484008042010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> > I have or can put my music and pages of lyrics on my computer, so my
> > immediate version of the question is, will it be possible to upload
> > documents from my computer to the iPad? What about a .pdf?
>
> iPDF Reader is free. iFiles is a file manager/loader-$1. Also Macintouch
> has a brief list of apps at
> <http://www.macintouch.com/reviews/ipad/apps.html>
> BTW, you might get more/better suggestions posting to comp.mobile.ipad.

I'm a long way from buying one at the moment; I speculate far in
advance. I'm just opening myself to temptation at the moment.

It sounds as if I need to explore iWork and Pages. I have a trial
package for the former that came with my computer and I see a "user
guide" for Pages. Quite a few applications came with the new computer
that I've never actually explored 8-)

--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist


http://www.mosaictelecom.com/~erilarlo
From: Conor on
On 08/04/2010 18:45, Wes Groleau wrote:
> On 04-08-2010 12:06, Conor wrote:
>> On 08/04/2010 15:48, erilar wrote:
>>> This just came up on a harp list I belong to and I thought this was a
>>> good place to throw it into.
>>>
>>> Harpists and other musicians often carry pretty heavy gig books around,
>>> and the thought of being able to use an iPad for a self-lighting
>>> replacement just came up on that list.
>>
>> Nope. Too small, won't sit on a standard music stand and its too faffy
>> to change a page mid-piece.
>
> 1024 x 768 is too small? Even if the sheets can be reformatted?
>
The resolution isn't the issue, the size of the display is, especially
when viewed over 2ft away. As a brass musician, you're looking at nearly
arms length.

> What is a standard music stand? I've only seen and used two kinds.
> They are VERY different, but either one can hold an iPad.
>
This is the type I used to use because it folded down very small.
Virtually everyone in the bands and orchestras I played in used similar
ones because of the portability.

http://images.esellerpro.com/2225/I/311/1/lrgmusic-stand-2.jpg

> What does "faffy" mean? If iPad is anything like iPod/iPhone,
> changing pages is a heck of a lot easier than turning a paper
> page.

But you have to change a page for every page, you don't get two
displayed side by side or if you did, you'd have trouble seeing them.
Remember that the distance is around 2-4ft.

I know two musicians who use MacBooks for their lead sheets.
> (But I don't know what software they use to display them.)
>
What the hell is a lead sheet?

> I can imagine audio analysis software that listens to the music
> and guesses where in the song you are--with touch controls on
> screen to override in case the software screws up.
>
You've never played as part of a 40 piece brass band or a full sized 100
piece orchestra.

--
Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Steve Hix on
In article <826d8oFv39U4(a)mid.individual.net>, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk>
wrote:

> On 08/04/2010 15:48, erilar wrote:
> > This just came up on a harp list I belong to and I thought this was a
> > good place to throw it into.
> >
> > Harpists and other musicians often carry pretty heavy gig books around,
> > and the thought of being able to use an iPad for a self-lighting
> > replacement just came up on that list.
>
> Nope. Too small, won't sit on a standard music stand

Third-party opportunity, and an easy one at that.

> and its too faffy to change a page mid-piece.

"faffy"?
From: Steve Hix on
In article <826msnFvmlU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk>
wrote:

> On 08/04/2010 18:45, Wes Groleau wrote:
> > On 04-08-2010 12:06, Conor wrote:
> >> On 08/04/2010 15:48, erilar wrote:
> >>> This just came up on a harp list I belong to and I thought this was a
> >>> good place to throw it into.
> >>>
> >>> Harpists and other musicians often carry pretty heavy gig books around,
> >>> and the thought of being able to use an iPad for a self-lighting
> >>> replacement just came up on that list.
> >>
> >> Nope. Too small, won't sit on a standard music stand and its too faffy
> >> to change a page mid-piece.
> >
> > 1024 x 768 is too small? Even if the sheets can be reformatted?
> >
> The resolution isn't the issue, the size of the display is, especially
> when viewed over 2ft away. As a brass musician, you're looking at nearly
> arms length.

I played clarinet for several years. Some of the music we handled was
smaller than the iPad screen.

Heck, these days, I have to hold everything at arm's length just to
focus on the text.

> > What is a standard music stand? I've only seen and used two kinds.
> > They are VERY different, but either one can hold an iPad.
> >
> This is the type I used to use because it folded down very small.
> Virtually everyone in the bands and orchestras I played in used similar
> ones because of the portability.
>
> http://images.esellerpro.com/2225/I/311/1/lrgmusic-stand-2.jpg

A adapter to fit the stand should be simple.

> > What does "faffy" mean? If iPad is anything like iPod/iPhone,
> > changing pages is a heck of a lot easier than turning a paper
> > page.
>
> But you have to change a page for every page,

quick swipe...

> you don't get two displayed side by side

unless you rotate the iPad to landscape orientation.

> or if you did, you'd have trouble seeing them.
> Remember that the distance is around 2-4ft.

(Looking) works here. If it's out past a meter, it's pretty much out of
reach ... sort of hard to turn pages without jumping off your seat each
time.

> > I can imagine audio analysis software that listens to the music
> > and guesses where in the song you are--with touch controls on
> > screen to override in case the software screws up.
> >
> You've never played as part of a 40 piece brass band or a full sized 100
> piece orchestra.

I've done both. I don't see the problems as being quite as bad as you
seem to figure.
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