iPad & email - what do you suppose?
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From: BreadWithSpam on 17 Mar 2010 17:11 Warren Oates <warren.oates(a)gmail.com> writes: > In article <michelle-F35EDE.11525717032010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, > Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > > > So unless someone has access to that passcode, or access long > > enough to the iPad to crack the passcode, it's safe from prying > > eyes. > And how would it be different from my Mac Pro (say), which is on all the > time, protected by my passord? I never thought of it, but the Mac Pro > acts as a picture frame, with the screensaver. I believe the point was that there's no way to allow someone else to use your machine yet maintain security over your information. I don't know about you, but guests in my home use my machines on a regular basis -- logged in as Guest. They don't get to pry into my e-mail or personal files, but they certainly do get to surf the web, use web-based e-mail to check their e-mail, etc. I see no reason that the iPhoneOS couldn't allow multiple users just as the Mac does. And, as I said to the OP, there IS a correct way to do this. Nobody but you uses the machine logged in as you. They use the guest account. That's precisely what it's for. -- Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed. Are you posting responses that are easy for others to follow? http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting
From: nospam on 17 Mar 2010 18:17 In article <yobpr32k66n.fsf(a)panix1.panix.com>, <BreadWithSpam(a)fractious.net> wrote: > But I > *hope* that Apple includes some notion of a guest account > in iPhoneOS 4.0 and that it works on iPads AND iPhones. Because > that's exactly the right way to do this, just as that's exactly > the right way to do it on your desktop. ugh. a phone with a guess account? that's ridiculous. > Your suggestion that there should be individual log-in security > on an application-by-application basis seems extraordinarily > cumbersome, way more complex than necessary (and likely less > secure). it's simple and it works. if you have sensitive data, get an app that requires a password to access it, such as 1password or any of the other password keeper apps. there are also contacts apps that require a password, even photo apps, and there are browser replacements that offer 'safe browsing' and don't keep a history. that way, a user can play whatever games they want but won't be able to snoop a whole lot. more importantly, why are you letting someone whom you do not trust to not snoop use the device in the first place?
From: Eric on 18 Mar 2010 08:17 In article <michelle-5B0D01.14450217032010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <yobljdqk61e.fsf(a)panix1.panix.com>, BreadWithSpam(a)fractious.net > wrote: > > > I don't know about you, but guests in my home use my machines on a > > regular basis -- logged in as Guest. They don't get to pry into my > > e-mail or personal files, but they certainly do get to surf the web, use > > web-based e-mail to check their e-mail, etc. > > If a guest to my home doesn't have a computer, I set up an account for him, > or let him use the guest account. If she does have a computer with WiFi, I > set up a guest network on my router. I agree, and that is exactly what I do on a desktop Mac. If someone is staying at my home, I make an account for them in advance (including setting up email for them). If it is a casual visitor, the standard Guest account is available. Many routers have the equivalent of the Tomizone visitor login. The last lot I got were cheap, and worked fine at running two independent networks. I do not consider my personal phone a shared device. However I do think that an iPad will be a problem. Although a personal device, I can see the advantage of making something like that available to a guest. In the longer term, I suspect I will make an older iPad available to guests, with it synced to a Guest account. It seems the sensible way to handle the situation. I see no need to make a guest feel uncomfortable about having internet access, but equally I see no need to seriously compromise the security of my own account.
From: nospam on 19 Mar 2010 14:16 In article <ho0c3s$go6$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Joe Pup <joepupchek(a)comcast.net> wrote: > In reality, the iPad is really a big iPod, it's more than that > not even close to being a > modern computer, it lacks too much. it has things other devices don't. > In fact it doesn't even use OSX. of course it does. > You > can't even plug in a usb connection without an adapter. so what? most people don't need to do that > It only has a > virtual keyboard, but you can plug in an extra cost external, so what? most tasks don't need an external keyboard > but of > course carrying around all those accessories cuts down portability. which is why few people will actually do that > And > how would you carry it around, maybe have your clothes tailored with > really big pockets? how do you carry around a netbook or laptop? > Look at it as an underpowered netbook without a cover. it's not a netbook.
From: Joe Pup on 19 Mar 2010 14:48
On 3/19/2010 2:16 PM, nospam wrote: > In article<ho0c3s$go6$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Joe Pup > <joepupchek(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >> In reality, the iPad is really a big iPod, > > it's more than that So you say. Name how? > >> not even close to being a >> modern computer, it lacks too much. > > it has things other devices don't. "other devices" Name some. Also name some "things" "other devices" don't have. > >> In fact it doesn't even use OSX. > > of course it does. It uses the iPhone OS. Not OSX by a country mile. > > You >> can't even plug in a usb connection without an adapter. > > so what? most people don't need to do that Really. How do you know what "most people" want. Did you take a survey? > >> It only has a >> virtual keyboard, but you can plug in an extra cost external, > > so what? most tasks don't need an external keyboard What applies to you does not apply to the world. >> but of >> course carrying around all those accessories cuts down portability. > > which is why few people will actually do that So whats the point of carrying around a big iPod anyway? > >> And >> how would you carry it around, maybe have your clothes tailored with >> really big pockets? > > how do you carry around a netbook or laptop? You said, "it's not a netbook" so why use a netbook as an analogy? > >> Look at it as an underpowered netbook without a cover. > > it's not a netbook. An "underpowered" netbook without a cover or keyboard which requires an adapter to plug in a USB device. Brilliant design, real "magic". |