From: SpaceMarine on 17 Mar 2010 12:40 so a common request by the non-diehard mac user is, "How do I enable password authentication on Mail?" to which the dedicated chime in, "Simple: Log off and don't let anybody ever touch your Mac without direct adult supervision!" while that may be a fine technical solution, sadly it is not a practical one. as we enter the era of appliance computing and coffee-table devices, i am curious: how do you think Apple will solution security? email holds private personal information. i believe multiple users logging off/on is not supported on a device like the iPad. but clearly there is Mail on the iPad. unlike the iPhone, clearly also this device is meant to be left unsupervised in the household, where guests may be flipping thru photos or whatnot. so then, how will Mail be updated to support this security risk scenario? will they finally enable mailbox authentication? or stick to the naive notion that the account-owner will be always be overseeing his toys? whatcha think.
From: Davoud on 17 Mar 2010 13:00 SpaceMarine: > unlike the iPhone, clearly also this device is meant to > be left unsupervised in the household, Nothing clear about that to me. > where guests may be flipping > thru photos or whatnot. so then, how will Mail be updated to support > this security risk scenario? "risk scenario?" More dumb language use! You definitely need to get rid of your TV. My guests all have TS/SCI/Q. If your guests are security risks, call Homeland Security. Davoud -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
From: Warren Oates on 17 Mar 2010 15:08 In article <michelle-F35EDE.11525717032010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > So unless someone has access to that passcode, or access long enough to the > iPad to crack the passcode, it's safe from prying eyes. And how would it be different from my Mac Pro (say), which is on all the time, protected by my passord? I never thought of it, but the Mac Pro acts as a picture frame, with the screensaver. -- Very old woody beets will never cook tender. -- Fannie Farmer
From: Warren Oates on 17 Mar 2010 15:57 In article <michelle-133221.12222017032010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > Yup, if that's how you have the screen saver set. Mine shows flying toast > and toasters. You're such a traditionalist. You should globally e-enable your initiatives in a more holistically process-centric paradigm. -- Very old woody beets will never cook tender. -- Fannie Farmer
From: BreadWithSpam on 17 Mar 2010 17:08
SpaceMarine <spacemarine(a)mailinator.com> writes: > so a common request by the non-diehard mac user is, "How do I enable > password authentication on Mail?" to which the dedicated chime in, > "Simple: Log off" Is the correct answer. Your account is a lot more than just your e-mail. There's a reason that there are guest accounts available on machines. Use them. > "and don't let anybody ever touch your Mac without > direct adult supervision!" That's for keeping the kids off the unsavory sites. > while that may be a fine technical solution, sadly it is not a > practical one. On a Mac, it's the exactly correct - and trivially simple - solution. > i believe multiple users logging off/on > is not supported on a device like the iPad. And, frankly, this is a fault with the iPhone and iPod Touch, too. There's no guest account available, and that's a pity. > unlike the iPhone, clearly also this device is meant to > be left unsupervised in the household, where guests may be flipping > thru photos or whatnot. What makes you say that? It's clearly a small, portable, personal machine. I'm not sayint that you're wrong when you suggest that there really ought to be a guest mode on the iPad. But I am saying that your intimation that the iPad is meant to be left around the house is just speculation. If, in fact, it doesn't permit multiple user accounts, then I'd say that that fact demonstrates that the intent is exactly the opposite of what you say - no multi-user means that it is meant to be a single individual's personal machine and NOT "left unsupervised". > will they finally enable mailbox authentication? or stick to the naive > notion that the account-owner will be always be overseeing his toys? > whatcha think. I think that nobody who knows anything for certain (ie those who are under NDAs) is going to be able to answer us. But I *hope* that Apple includes some notion of a guest account in iPhoneOS 4.0 and that it works on iPads AND iPhones. Because that's exactly the right way to do this, just as that's exactly the right way to do it on your desktop. Your suggestion that there should be individual log-in security on an application-by-application basis seems extraordinarily cumbersome, way more complex than necessary (and likely less secure). -- Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed. Are you posting responses that are easy for others to follow? http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting |