From: SpaceMarine on
so a common request by the non-diehard mac user is, "How do I enable
password authentication on Mail?" to which the dedicated chime in,
"Simple: Log off and don't let anybody ever touch your Mac without
direct adult supervision!"

while that may be a fine technical solution, sadly it is not a
practical one.

as we enter the era of appliance computing and coffee-table devices, i
am curious: how do you think Apple will solution security? email holds
private personal information. i believe multiple users logging off/on
is not supported on a device like the iPad. but clearly there is Mail
on the iPad. unlike the iPhone, clearly also this device is meant to
be left unsupervised in the household, where guests may be flipping
thru photos or whatnot. so then, how will Mail be updated to support
this security risk scenario?

will they finally enable mailbox authentication? or stick to the naive
notion that the account-owner will be always be overseeing his toys?

whatcha think.
From: Davoud on
SpaceMarine:

> unlike the iPhone, clearly also this device is meant to
> be left unsupervised in the household,

Nothing clear about that to me.


> where guests may be flipping
> thru photos or whatnot. so then, how will Mail be updated to support
> this security risk scenario?

"risk scenario?" More dumb language use! You definitely need to get rid
of your TV.

My guests all have TS/SCI/Q. If your guests are security risks, call
Homeland Security.

Davoud

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From: Warren Oates on
In article <michelle-F35EDE.11525717032010(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> So unless someone has access to that passcode, or access long enough to the
> iPad to crack the passcode, it's safe from prying eyes.

And how would it be different from my Mac Pro (say), which is on all the
time, protected by my passord? I never thought of it, but the Mac Pro
acts as a picture frame, with the screensaver.
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From: Warren Oates on
In article <michelle-133221.12222017032010(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> Yup, if that's how you have the screen saver set. Mine shows flying toast
> and toasters.

You're such a traditionalist. You should globally e-enable your
initiatives in a more holistically process-centric paradigm.
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Very old woody beets will never cook tender.
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From: BreadWithSpam on
SpaceMarine <spacemarine(a)mailinator.com> writes:

> so a common request by the non-diehard mac user is, "How do I enable
> password authentication on Mail?" to which the dedicated chime in,
> "Simple: Log off"

Is the correct answer. Your account is a lot more than just your
e-mail. There's a reason that there are guest accounts available
on machines. Use them.

> "and don't let anybody ever touch your Mac without
> direct adult supervision!"

That's for keeping the kids off the unsavory sites.

> while that may be a fine technical solution, sadly it is not a
> practical one.

On a Mac, it's the exactly correct - and trivially simple - solution.

> i believe multiple users logging off/on
> is not supported on a device like the iPad.

And, frankly, this is a fault with the iPhone and iPod Touch,
too. There's no guest account available, and that's a pity.

> unlike the iPhone, clearly also this device is meant to
> be left unsupervised in the household, where guests may be flipping
> thru photos or whatnot.

What makes you say that? It's clearly a small, portable,
personal machine. I'm not sayint that you're wrong when
you suggest that there really ought to be a guest mode on
the iPad. But I am saying that your intimation that the
iPad is meant to be left around the house is just speculation.
If, in fact, it doesn't permit multiple user accounts, then
I'd say that that fact demonstrates that the intent is exactly
the opposite of what you say - no multi-user means that it
is meant to be a single individual's personal machine and NOT
"left unsupervised".

> will they finally enable mailbox authentication? or stick to the naive
> notion that the account-owner will be always be overseeing his toys?
> whatcha think.

I think that nobody who knows anything for certain (ie those
who are under NDAs) is going to be able to answer us. But I
*hope* that Apple includes some notion of a guest account
in iPhoneOS 4.0 and that it works on iPads AND iPhones. Because
that's exactly the right way to do this, just as that's exactly
the right way to do it on your desktop.

Your suggestion that there should be individual log-in security
on an application-by-application basis seems extraordinarily
cumbersome, way more complex than necessary (and likely less
secure).

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