From: Woody on
Mike Edwards <mike.edwards(a)rocksoft.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> > > > > > > Just do it - yes, it's a stupid system that doesn't take
> > > > > > > non-US-based
> > > > > > > developers into account, but they aren't going to budge on it.
> > > > > > > There's
> > > > > > > probably some US law that requires them to have a fax on file. By
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > time you've finished arguing with them and raising your blood
> > > > > > > pressure
> > > > > > > for nothing, you'd have sent the fax 10 times over. "Jobsworth"s
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > the same all over the world, like MacDonalds (besides the person
> > > > > > > you'd
> > > > > > > be arguing with would have no authority or discretion to waive the
> > > > > > > requirement just for you).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is true. Now if I just new where that document was!
> > > > >
> > > > > Just download it again. It only costs a quid.
> > > >
> > > > That is what I read on the web, but I can't find anywhere on companies
> > > > house to download - I just found the bit where it was �15 to have it
> > > > sent. Is there a link anywhere?
> > >
> > > Find your company and go the page by clicking on the company number.
> > >
> > > Click on the 'Order information on this company' .
> > >
> > > Select the 'CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION' choice at the bottom of the
> > > list and hit 'Add to order'.
> >
> > Taa - should have looked there, I just looked on the price list section.
> >
> > Duly downloaded, stuck in acrobat, trimmed to the relevant 4 pages,
> > covering letter added to the front, copied to the tablet (the only
> > movable thing with a modem), fax set up and sent. Took a couple of
> > minutes to send 80k worth of documents - isn't old fashioned technology
> > wonderful!
>
> Why did you need to send four pages? Thought the Certificate of
> Incorporation is just a single page?

No, its 12, but the last 8 pages are the same for everyone.

--
Woody

www.alienrat.com
From: Woody on
Jack Campin - bogus address <bogus(a)purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > Just do it - yes, it's a stupid system that doesn't take
> > non-US-based
> > developers into account, but they aren't going to budge on it.
> > There's
> > probably some US law that requires them to have a fax on file.
>
> UK law says the same thing. A fax usually has the same legal status
> as the original.

I agree, except in this case the original means nothing, other than once
someone, somewhere set up a company name that you specified.
--
Woody
From: Mike Edwards on

> > > > > > > > Just do it - yes, it's a stupid system that doesn't take
> > > > > > > > non-US-based
> > > > > > > > developers into account, but they aren't going to budge on it.
> > > > > > > > There's
> > > > > > > > probably some US law that requires them to have a fax on file.
> > > > > > > > By
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > time you've finished arguing with them and raising your blood
> > > > > > > > pressure
> > > > > > > > for nothing, you'd have sent the fax 10 times over.
> > > > > > > > "Jobsworth"s
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > the same all over the world, like MacDonalds (besides the
> > > > > > > > person
> > > > > > > > you'd
> > > > > > > > be arguing with would have no authority or discretion to waive
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > requirement just for you).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is true. Now if I just new where that document was!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just download it again. It only costs a quid.
> > > > >
> > > > > That is what I read on the web, but I can't find anywhere on
> > > > > companies
> > > > > house to download - I just found the bit where it was �15 to have it
> > > > > sent. Is there a link anywhere?
> > > >
> > > > Find your company and go the page by clicking on the company number.
> > > >
> > > > Click on the 'Order information on this company' .
> > > >
> > > > Select the 'CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION' choice at the bottom of the
> > > > list and hit 'Add to order'.
> > >
> > > Taa - should have looked there, I just looked on the price list section.
> > >
> > > Duly downloaded, stuck in acrobat, trimmed to the relevant 4 pages,
> > > covering letter added to the front, copied to the tablet (the only
> > > movable thing with a modem), fax set up and sent. Took a couple of
> > > minutes to send 80k worth of documents - isn't old fashioned technology
> > > wonderful!
> >
> > Why did you need to send four pages? Thought the Certificate of
> > Incorporation is just a single page?
>
> No, its 12, but the last 8 pages are the same for everyone.

The bundle you download is 12 pages but it includes all sorts of other
dross that Apple aren't interested in. The actual information they want
is, as far as I can see, contained on one page.
From: Woody on
Mike Edwards <mike.edwards(a)rocksoft.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> > > Why did you need to send four pages? Thought the Certificate of
> > > Incorporation is just a single page?
> >
> > No, its 12, but the last 8 pages are the same for everyone.
>
> The bundle you download is 12 pages but it includes all sorts of other
> dross that Apple aren't interested in. The actual information they want
> is, as far as I can see, contained on one page.

Maybe, but as I still dont understand what they want with that document
anyway and what good it is to them, I thought i would send them the 4
non-standard pages at the front, as if the last 3 are no use to thm they
can ignore them, which is easier than waiting a few days for them to
decide they wanted the extra ones.



--
Woody
From: Sak Wathanasin on
On 9 Feb, 07:58, use...(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote:
> Mike Edwards <mike.edwa...(a)rocksoft.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Just do it - yes, it's a stupid system that doesn't take
> > > > > > > > non-US-based
> > > > > > > > developers into account, but they aren't going to budge on it.
> > > > > > > > There's
> > > > > > > > probably some US law that requires them to have a fax on file. By
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > time you've finished arguing with them and raising your blood
> > > > > > > > pressure
> > > > > > > > for nothing, you'd have sent the fax 10 times over. "Jobsworth"s
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > the same all over the world, like MacDonalds (besides the person
> > > > > > > > you'd
> > > > > > > > be arguing with would have no authority or discretion to waive the
> > > > > > > > requirement just for you).
>
> > > > > > > This is true. Now if I just new where that document was!
>
> > > > > > Just download it again. It only costs a quid.
>
> > > > > That is what I read on the web, but I can't find anywhere on companies
> > > > > house to download - I just found the bit where it was £15 to have it
> > > > > sent. Is there a link anywhere?
>
> > > > Find your company and go the page by clicking on the company number..
>
> > > > Click on the 'Order information on this company' .
>
> > > > Select the 'CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION' choice at the bottom of the
> > > > list and hit 'Add to order'.
>
> > > Taa - should have looked there, I just looked on the price list section.
>
> > > Duly downloaded, stuck in acrobat, trimmed to the relevant 4 pages,
> > > covering letter added to the front, copied to the tablet (the only
> > > movable thing with a modem), fax set up and sent. Took a couple of
> > > minutes to send 80k worth of documents - isn't old fashioned technology
> > > wonderful!
>
> > Why did you need to send four pages? Thought the Certificate of
> > Incorporation is just a single page?
>
> No, its 12, but the last 8 pages are the same for everyone.

I think you're confusing it with the "Articles and Memorandum of
Incorporation"; the ceritificate is just 1 page.