installing vista on xp
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From: Bo Berglund on 8 Dec 2008 14:58 On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:40:07 -0800, "Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote: >On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 02:09:49 -1000, "Melelina" <melelina(a)medscape.com> >wrote: > >> >>"Bo Berglund" <boberglund(a)home.se> wrote in message >>news:33goj4lmh0bhkkq95roc84tvccud62qjm5(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 12:23:00 -0800, dardanus >>> <dardanus(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>> >>>>when i install windows vista ultimate(dutch) on my windows xp >>>>professional(english) using vpc 2007 i get the message: "er is een >>>>uitzondering opgetreden(onbekende software-uitzondering) (0xe0000100) in >>>>de >>>>toepassing op de locatie0x7649b09e." when i click ok the (virtual)system >>>>starts again it says windows is loading files when that is finished it >>>>starts >>>>loading vista like normall, it displays the windows vista aero background >>>>and >>>>it displays the message again. >>>> >>> >>> Can you describe exactly *how* you are attempting to install Vista on >>> your virtual machine inside VPC2007? >>> >>> If you just insert the DVD into the main (physical) PC drive then of >>> course your *main* PC will use it.... >>> >>> It is very much better to create an ISO image of the DVD before trying >>> to install Vista on the virtual machine. Then you do not need the DVD >>> in your drive and your main system will never have a problem caused by >>> reading the install disk. >> >>Why is it "much better to create an ISO image? I have never done such a >>thing. There is no need for a hassle like that. You just need to create the >>machine, then click on it, make it sure it is the active window and then >>insert the CD into your drive and install the OS. It is a simple thing and >>no need to complicate it with making as ISO image first. Probably, dardanus >>did not make the virtual machine window the ACTIVE window. >> >>I installed Vista Ultimate on XP Pro host with no problems and no need to >>make a ISO image. I cannot make a DVD ISO image anyhow. I only have a CDROM >>drive that writes. I can't even make a backup of my Vista DVDs. The only >>time I have ever needed DVD write capability was for this Vista DVD so I >>don't think I went wrong in not getting anything more than a DVD reader >>although my next computer will have DVD write capability. > >1.much, much faster >2. no need for the media after you make the ISO image >3. much more convenient, especially with virtual server, hyperv, >vmware server, esx, etc. > >It depends on how many VMs you're installing, where your computers are >(remote servers, etc) there are a lot of good reasons to do it. > >I don't install on DVD or CD ever, too slow and too much hassle >fussing with the optical media. Just drag and drop the ISO onto the >CD icon and away you go. > >An ISO is an image file, you don't need a dvd burner. You create an >ISO image to your hard drive Thanks Steve, I thought everybody here considered me an idiot for using ISO files.... Fast, Always works, Easily portable on hard disk, No hassle with sometimes nonfunctioning optical drives, MSDN delivers all OSes as ISO files (both on DVD and as download) etc etc etc.. -- Bo Berglund (Sweden)
From: Mark Rae [MVP] on 8 Dec 2008 15:16 "Bo Berglund" <boberglund(a)home.se> wrote in message news:ssuqj459fn7pf01b5hq7hj1fadfdl5jm2r(a)4ax.com... > I thought everybody here considered me an idiot for using ISO > files.... I don't believe anyone actually said that - I certainly didn't even think it... You said "It is very much better to create an ISO image of the DVD before trying to install..." And I was simply pointing out that I don't agree with that statement at all. For me, it is very much better not to fill up my hard disk(s) with iso files that I might need to use only occasionally, but rather to fetch a DVD out of its case and put it in my host's optical drive, a process which takes never more than a few seconds no matter how much I've had to drink, and which has never failed even once for me... -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net
From: Melelina on 9 Dec 2008 03:11 "Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message news:g8qqj4di1tsncughjh5b8aqirqekfrsb5b(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 02:09:49 -1000, "Melelina" <melelina(a)medscape.com> > wrote: > >> >>"Bo Berglund" <boberglund(a)home.se> wrote in message >>news:33goj4lmh0bhkkq95roc84tvccud62qjm5(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 12:23:00 -0800, dardanus >>> <dardanus(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>> >>>>when i install windows vista ultimate(dutch) on my windows xp >>>>professional(english) using vpc 2007 i get the message: "er is een >>>>uitzondering opgetreden(onbekende software-uitzondering) (0xe0000100) in >>>>de >>>>toepassing op de locatie0x7649b09e." when i click ok the (virtual)system >>>>starts again it says windows is loading files when that is finished it >>>>starts >>>>loading vista like normall, it displays the windows vista aero >>>>background >>>>and >>>>it displays the message again. >>>> >>> >>> Can you describe exactly *how* you are attempting to install Vista on >>> your virtual machine inside VPC2007? >>> >>> If you just insert the DVD into the main (physical) PC drive then of >>> course your *main* PC will use it.... >>> >>> It is very much better to create an ISO image of the DVD before trying >>> to install Vista on the virtual machine. Then you do not need the DVD >>> in your drive and your main system will never have a problem caused by >>> reading the install disk. >> >>Why is it "much better to create an ISO image? I have never done such a >>thing. There is no need for a hassle like that. You just need to create >>the >>machine, then click on it, make it sure it is the active window and then >>insert the CD into your drive and install the OS. It is a simple thing and >>no need to complicate it with making as ISO image first. Probably, >>dardanus >>did not make the virtual machine window the ACTIVE window. >> >>I installed Vista Ultimate on XP Pro host with no problems and no need to >>make a ISO image. I cannot make a DVD ISO image anyhow. I only have a >>CDROM >>drive that writes. I can't even make a backup of my Vista DVDs. The only >>time I have ever needed DVD write capability was for this Vista DVD so I >>don't think I went wrong in not getting anything more than a DVD reader >>although my next computer will have DVD write capability. > > 1.much, much faster > 2. no need for the media after you make the ISO image > 3. much more convenient, especially with virtual server, hyperv, > vmware server, esx, etc. > > It depends on how many VMs you're installing, where your computers are > (remote servers, etc) there are a lot of good reasons to do it. > > I don't install on DVD or CD ever, too slow and too much hassle > fussing with the optical media. Just drag and drop the ISO onto the > CD icon and away you go. Huh? What do you mean drop the ISO onto what CD icon? You mean the emulated CDRom drive on virtual PC? That doesn't make sense. > > An ISO is an image file, you don't need a dvd burner. You create an > ISO image to your hard drive I know you don't need a dvd burner to make an ISO file but ordinarily you would complete it by burning to a CD or in the case of Vista a DVD. I just used Auto Streamer to slip stream SP3 onto my XP Pro SP2 disk. I know how to work with ISO files and use Nero to burn them to a CD. > > -- > Cheers, > Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP > http://vpc.essjae.com/
From: Melelina on 9 Dec 2008 03:15 "Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark(a)markNOSPAMrae.net> wrote in message news:O50VDBTWJHA.1248(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > "Bo Berglund" <boberglund(a)home.se> wrote in message > news:33goj4lmh0bhkkq95roc84tvccud62qjm5(a)4ax.com... > >> If you just insert the DVD into the main (physical) PC drive then of >> course your *main* PC will use it.... > > So you simply cancel autorun / autoplay and then capture the DVD in the > guest... > >> It is very much better to create an ISO image of the DVD before trying >> to install Vista on the virtual machine. > > Why? If the DVD is in good condition, it makes not the slightest > difference... > >> Then you do not need the DVD in your drive and your main system will >> never have a problem caused by reading the install disk. > > Why would it...? In all the years I've been using VPC, I've never had one > single problem with a guest reading a DVD... I haven't had VPC that long but one thing that impresses me is how it grabs the CDRom drive when so instructecd and uses it with no problems. I have problems in this area periodically with my VMWare Workstation 5.5 virtual machines but never on VPC. > > > -- > Mark Rae > ASP.NET MVP > http://www.markrae.net
From: Mark Rae [MVP] on 9 Dec 2008 05:06
"Melelina" <melelina(a)medscape.com> wrote in message news:ejcswWdWJHA.5208(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> I don't install on DVD or CD ever, too slow and too much hassle >> fussing with the optical media. Just drag and drop the ISO onto the >> CD icon and away you go. > > Huh? What do you mean drop the ISO onto what CD icon? The CD icon in the bottom left corner of the VM window. That has the same effect as capturing the CD from the VM menu. > That doesn't make sense. Makes perfect sense... -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net |