installing vista on xp
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From: Melelina on 11 Dec 2008 01:27 "Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark(a)markNOSPAMrae.net> wrote in message news:OMWfwzsWJHA.4852(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > "Melelina" <melelina(a)medscape.com> wrote in message > news:u0BAggsWJHA.5760(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >>> Sicne VPC was a Mac product long before a Windows product, you can >>> drag and drop ISOs, floppy images, etc on the icons in the VPC tray in >>> the lower left of the guest window(obviously you can't have the VM in >>> full screen mode to do this). >> >> There is NOTHING in the lower left corner when in non full screen mode. > > No-one said there was... > >> I have NEVER seen this VPC tray as you call it. > > The fact that YOU have never seen something doesn't mean that it doesn't > exist - I've never seen Ayers Rock, but I've seen pictures of it... Here's > a picture of Virtual PC showing the system tray in the bottom left corner > of its status bar: > http://arcanecode.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/u710-001.jpg Sorry if I sounded like I doubted its existence. I was just saying that I have never seen it. I only see the VMWare Workstation one when it is booting and it is not accessible then. Maybe it too is supposed to be seen and be accessible? Maybe why I don't see it after booting, as well have never seen the VPC tray, is for the same reason? > >> How do I see it? > > <HOST KEY> + Enter > >> Generally, though both boot full screen so how would I know something is >> there? > > Don't run it full screen... What is the point of using a virtual machine if it can't be full screen? :D I don't like cramped up windows. > >> Using right alt/enter does not reveal this tray. > > Have you reconfigured your host key to be something else...? No. > > > -- > Mark Rae > ASP.NET MVP > http://www.markrae.net
From: Melelina on 11 Dec 2008 02:01 "Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message news:oi60k4hrcl74iks1ukqjrmtpifp5qovmvt(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:06:31 -1000, "Melelina" <melelina(a)medscape.com> > wrote: > > >>>>that choice before. >>> >>> Sicne VPC was a Mac product long before a Windows product, you can >>> drag and drop ISOs, floppy images, etc on the icons in the VPC tray in >>> the lower left of the guest window(obviously you can't have the VM in >>> full screen mode to do this). >> >>There is NOTHING in the lower left corner when in non full screen mode. >>The >>only thing there is the Windows Start button. I have NEVER seen this VPC >>tray as you call it. How do I see it? Same with VMWare Workstation. There >>I >>can see a tray as it boots but it is non accessible after it boots no >>matter >>if in full screen or not. Generally, though both boot full screen so how >>would I know something is there? Using right alt/enter does not reveal >>this >>tray. Non full screen mode only displays the toolbar at the top. Same as >>with VMWare Workstation. > > You may have never seen it, but it's there. It's been in every > version of VPC-Win since the first one back in 2001 (and in the Mac > versions previously). There are screen shots of it in my TechRef PDF > and here: > http://acs.pha.jhu.edu/~shy/vpc-windows/vpc-fc4-installation.png > look in the lower left corner, you will see 5 icons > harddrive: > > CD -- drag and drop ISOs or physical discs here to mount > floppy --drag and drop VFds and physical disks here to mount > Folders --shared folders (grayed out when not installed, drag and drop > the drive or folder on the host you want to share with VPC) > network -- (upside down T), has green and red blinking lights to show > network activity > > The tray for VMWare is on the right, there are CD, HD, network, etc > icons there. > Yes, I know it is on the lower right side in VMWare, but I see it only when the computer boots. >> >>> You can also drag and drop file locations, VHDs, etc in most of the >>> input boxes. >> >>I don't even understand that sentence. Drag and drop file locations? What >>does that mean? Why would I want to drag and drop a virtual hard drive (I >>assume that is what VHD means)? > > Yeah, for advanced things, like say using an existing VHD, you can > drag and drop the VHD from Windows Explorer into the "Virtual Disk > location" text box in the new VM wizard. I get it now, thanks. I'm thinking that I don't see this tray in VPC at all, and only briefly during boot in VMWare, because I use the machines full screen. When I minimize the screen (Right Alt/Enter in VPC and Control/Alt/Enter in VMWare) the screen minimizes only slightly- just enough so that I can access the host's task bar and systray and minimize the guest machine to the host's taskbar. That is probably not enough minimization to allow me to see the trays for VPC and VMWare. I guess most don't do it this way as I asked a question in this news group recently regarding a problem with the taskbar in VPC when going from slight minimization to full screen and I didn't get a single answer. I use Action/Full Screen to get from slight minimization to full screen but much of the time the takbar remains as the one for the host. In full screen the guest taskbar should fullly cover the host taskbar. I have to click back and forth to finally get the VPC taskbar to act correctly. I have never had this problem with VMWare. > > -- > Cheers, > Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP > http://vpc.essjae.com/
From: Mark Rae [MVP] on 11 Dec 2008 05:14 "Melelina" <melelina(a)medscape.com> wrote in message news:uZlnAm1WJHA.5760(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Sorry if I sounded like I doubted its existence. I was just saying that I > have never seen it. Hmm, not quite... What you actually said was: "There is NOTHING in the lower left corner when in non full screen mode." -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net
From: Bob Campbell on 11 Dec 2008 07:27 "Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark(a)markNOSPAMrae.net> wrote in message news:eq%23N1k3WJHA.4184(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > "Melelina" <melelina(a)medscape.com> wrote in message > news:uZlnAm1WJHA.5760(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >> Sorry if I sounded like I doubted its existence. I was just saying that I >> have never seen it. > > Hmm, not quite... What you actually said was: "There is NOTHING in the > lower left corner when in non full screen mode." This status bar is optional. It can be turned on and off in the VM display settings. Of course, you won't see it at all if you run the VM full screen.
From: Bill Grant on 11 Dec 2008 16:56
"Bob Campbell" <bob(a)bob.bob> wrote in message news:B6idnQNxMMqqmtzUnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d(a)supernews.com... > "Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark(a)markNOSPAMrae.net> wrote in message > news:eq%23N1k3WJHA.4184(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> "Melelina" <melelina(a)medscape.com> wrote in message >> news:uZlnAm1WJHA.5760(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >>> Sorry if I sounded like I doubted its existence. I was just saying that >>> I have never seen it. >> I would like to make some general comments on this discussion. 1. The fact that someone doesn't use a particular feature doesn't mean it is worthless. There are dozens of features in the OS (XP or Vista) which I never use, but others use frequently. 2. The drag and drop feature which allows you to attach an ISO or .vfd (not .vhd) file to a vm is very handy from my point of view. It is also intuitive - dragging a .vfd on to the floppy drive icon emulates putting a floppy disk in the floppy drive. If you have ever tried attaching an ISO file from the admin website in Virtual Server you will appreciate how much easier it is with VPC drag and drop. 3. I never run vms in full screen. I usually have multiple vms running and overlap the windows so I can easily bring one to the foreground with a single click. To my way of thinking, VPC is just another application which runs in a window. 4. You can hardy expect to find VPC features when you are running VMWare. |