``$me$ always changes" (A Poetic Force of Nature)
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From: mahipal7638 on 9 Dec 2008 16:41 On Dec 9, 1:23 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:9c750957-10d9-43bc-9c8f-dc66fd2b6410(a)f3g2000vbf.googlegroups.com... > On Dec 8, 6:57 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > > > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >news:e2706f2d-080e-4afe-a2a2-c5274cf7d480(a)w35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com.... > > On Dec 5, 10:15 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > > > > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > > >news:cb7d62aa-86b7-4f80-9a53-fdfb25b8f8fd(a)t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com.... > > > On Dec 4, 3:38 pm, Puppet_Sock <puppet_s...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 4, 1:20 pm, mahipal7...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > > "$me$ always changes" is a Physics Truism. It's a given. An > > > > > Obviousism. > > > > > Well, except when mass is constant. Which is lots of the time. > > > > Site an example of when and what mass is constant in Nature. > > > > ========================================== > > > Ok, er... Trafalgar Square, London. Or did you want an example cited? > > > If so you used the wrong poetic homonym. > > > I accept the written word is often subject to varied interpretations. > > ============================================ > > Different written words with different spelling such as site, sight, cite, > > slight and sleight have different meanings. > > ============================================ > > O, I wasn't thinking of mere individual words. > > It's rude and impolite to break down others' paragraphs, into > sentences, or, even worse, into words. > ============================================== > Yeah, well, I never claimed to be otherwise. A pity if that hurts your > lousy feelings. > ============================================== You did not hurt a feeling. > We already know how they > breakdown into alphabits. It's just plain inconsiderate given how > technology has made bits available on the order of gigabytes. > > > But an example of constant mass is pending. I asked to make a point. > > Thanks for making a funny. It shows character. > > ============================================ > > Energy is relative, E = 1/2 mv^2 and v is relative. If I throw a stone > > away from you it will have negative energy relative to you because > > it cannot strike you, unlike a stone thrown toward you with > > constant mass m. > > The kinetic energy of the stone, thrown towards or away from me, is a > positive definite quantity. Only the velocity has direction. > Relativity yields that the mass of the stone is variable with its > changing velocity magnitude. > > > Should you argue that the mass of the stone may be converted to > > energy I would not disagree, but you will not receive all that energy > > unless it elastically collides elsewhere and is reflected in your > > direction. > > ============================================ > > > Your example of constant Sunday Mass, is, if you examine it more > > closely, never exactly the same. > > =========================================== > > I made no such example, you are hallucinating. > > Hallucinations, built-in human mind functionality, are a nice welcomed > break. > =========================================== > It's rude, impolite, dishonest and highly unethical to accuse others > of making statements they did not make. Enjoy your dreaming. I did not accuse you, I credited you. In error, for sure. Tough luck. My eyesight needs correction; I'll get corrective lenses. Mea culpa! Time to end this thread. Enjo(y). Mahipal "Aging sucks!" Virdy.
From: mahipal7638 on 9 Dec 2008 16:53 On Dec 9, 1:32 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:7e805793-1636-4eb9-9efb-acc3cad15751(a)w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > On Dec 9, 10:14 am, mahipal7...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > On Dec 8, 6:57 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > > > > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > > >news:e2706f2d-080e-4afe-a2a2-c5274cf7d480(a)w35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com.... > > > On Dec 5, 10:15 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > > > > > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:cb7d62aa-86b7-4f80-9a53-fdfb25b8f8fd(a)t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > > > > On Dec 4, 3:38 pm, Puppet_Sock <puppet_s...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 4, 1:20 pm, mahipal7...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > "$me$ always changes" is a Physics Truism. It's a given. An > > > > > > Obviousism. > > > > > > Well, except when mass is constant. Which is lots of the time. > > > > > Site an example of when and what mass is constant in Nature. > > > > > ========================================== > > > > Ok, er... Trafalgar Square, London. Or did you want an example cited? > > > > If so you used the wrong poetic homonym. > > > > I accept the written word is often subject to varied interpretations. > > > ============================================ > > > Different written words with different spelling such as site, sight, > > > cite, > > > slight and sleight have different meanings. > > > ============================================ > > > O, I wasn't thinking of mere individual words. > > Ok I fumbled. You focused on Site/Cite, where I was on mass/mass. Mea > cupla. I am known to make such errors of/from pronounciation. I've > written mute for moot. It's in my cross-cultural upbringing, and I > realize spell checkers alone are not enough. I confuse Mary for Meri; > such for such. > ================ > and "cupla" for "culpa", "pronounciation" for "pronunciation", > for which you are culpable. > ================ Fine. > Happens. Regardless, Trafalgar Square is not a example > of "Show me an example..." > ========================================== > Correct, it is a site of when and what mass is constant in Nature. > ==========================================- There's nothing poetic between site/cite. It's just a typo. There's no site which is constant in Nature, You're just plain wrong for even making the statement that its mass is constant. A poetic homonym is mass/mass, not site/cite. My mistake. Enjo(y). -- Mahipal "One survives Aging...vision loss" Virdy ``We search our Earth and her limitless skies all the while discovering in our hearts and minds is where heaven lies'' http://mysite.verizon.net/mahipalvirdy/
From: Androcles on 9 Dec 2008 17:32 <mahipal7638(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:a75b5675-1a21-4bb0-9e5a-7c4f9ee6404d(a)t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com... On Dec 9, 1:32 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:7e805793-1636-4eb9-9efb-acc3cad15751(a)w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > On Dec 9, 10:14 am, mahipal7...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > On Dec 8, 6:57 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > > > > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > > >news:e2706f2d-080e-4afe-a2a2-c5274cf7d480(a)w35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > > > On Dec 5, 10:15 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > > > > > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:cb7d62aa-86b7-4f80-9a53-fdfb25b8f8fd(a)t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > > > > On Dec 4, 3:38 pm, Puppet_Sock <puppet_s...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 4, 1:20 pm, mahipal7...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > "$me$ always changes" is a Physics Truism. It's a given. An > > > > > > Obviousism. > > > > > > Well, except when mass is constant. Which is lots of the time. > > > > > Site an example of when and what mass is constant in Nature. > > > > > ========================================== > > > > Ok, er... Trafalgar Square, London. Or did you want an example > > > > cited? > > > > If so you used the wrong poetic homonym. > > > > I accept the written word is often subject to varied interpretations. > > > ============================================ > > > Different written words with different spelling such as site, sight, > > > cite, > > > slight and sleight have different meanings. > > > ============================================ > > > O, I wasn't thinking of mere individual words. > > Ok I fumbled. You focused on Site/Cite, where I was on mass/mass. Mea > cupla. I am known to make such errors of/from pronounciation. I've > written mute for moot. It's in my cross-cultural upbringing, and I > realize spell checkers alone are not enough. I confuse Mary for Meri; > such for such. > ================ > and "cupla" for "culpa", "pronounciation" for "pronunciation", > for which you are culpable. > ================ Fine. ================= Very well, if that is your wish. You have admitted your culpability and I fine you �1.50. Pay the clerk of the court on your way out. All proceeds to a suitable charity named by me. Poetic justice, what? ============================================ > Happens. Regardless, Trafalgar Square is not a example > of "Show me an example..." > ========================================== > Correct, it is a site of when and what mass is constant in Nature. > ==========================================- There's nothing poetic between site/cite. It's just a typo. ============================================ It rhymes, what more do you want? ============================================ There's no site which is constant in Nature, You're just plain wrong for even making the statement that its mass is constant. ============================================ So you claim but have not proved. Assertion carries no weight, and you've already capitulated with your statement "Time to end this thread." However, I am amused to the point where I will listen to your argument a tad further. Please define "constant" and "mass" and then proceed with a reason they are incompatible. I suggest 1) http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/constant[2] b: a number that is assumed not to change value in a given mathematical discussion and 2) http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mass[2] c: the property of a body that is a measure of its inertia and that is commonly taken as a measure of the amount of material it contains and causes it to have weight in a gravitational field as a basis for your argument. Should you disagree with these dictionary definitions you may (s)ite your own, at the end of which I shall declare you "just plain wrong", and of course my opinion carries more weight that yours. It is, after all, mine. ============================================ A poetic homonym is mass/mass, not site/cite. My mistake. Enjo(y). -- Mahipal "One survives Aging...vision loss" Virdy ``We search our Earth and her limitless skies all the while discovering in our hearts and minds is where heaven lies'' http://mysite.verizon.net/mahipalvirdy/
From: mahipal7638 on 10 Dec 2008 10:53 On Dec 9, 5:32 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:a75b5675-1a21-4bb0-9e5a-7c4f9ee6404d(a)t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > On Dec 9, 1:32 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > > > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >news:7e805793-1636-4eb9-9efb-acc3cad15751(a)w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com.... > > On Dec 9, 10:14 am, mahipal7...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > On Dec 8, 6:57 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > > > > > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:e2706f2d-080e-4afe-a2a2-c5274cf7d480(a)w35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > > > > On Dec 5, 10:15 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > > > > > > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > > > > >news:cb7d62aa-86b7-4f80-9a53-fdfb25b8f8fd(a)t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Dec 4, 3:38 pm, Puppet_Sock <puppet_s...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Dec 4, 1:20 pm, mahipal7...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > "$me$ always changes" is a Physics Truism. It's a given. An > > > > > > > Obviousism. > > > > > > > Well, except when mass is constant. Which is lots of the time. > > > > > > Site an example of when and what mass is constant in Nature. > > > > > > ========================================== > > > > > Ok, er... Trafalgar Square, London. Or did you want an example > > > > > cited? > > > > > If so you used the wrong poetic homonym. > > > > > I accept the written word is often subject to varied interpretations. > > > > ============================================ > > > > Different written words with different spelling such as site, sight, > > > > cite, > > > > slight and sleight have different meanings. > > > > ============================================ > > > > O, I wasn't thinking of mere individual words. > > > Ok I fumbled. You focused on Site/Cite, where I was on mass/mass. Mea > > cupla. I am known to make such errors of/from pronounciation. I've > > written mute for moot. It's in my cross-cultural upbringing, and I > > realize spell checkers alone are not enough. I confuse Mary for Meri; > > such for such. > > ================ > > and "cupla" for "culpa", "pronounciation" for "pronunciation", > > for which you are culpable. > > ================ > > Fine. > ================= > Very well, if that is your wish. You have admitted your culpability > and I fine you £1.50. Pay the clerk of the court on your way out. > All proceeds to a suitable charity named by me. Poetic justice, what? > ============================================ It was I who started the spelling nonsense with "reasoning". I suffered for it. It's poetic justice. I deserve the laughs. I owe you a beer. Cheers. As it happens, I do not use a spell checker. As I surley should. Google doesn't have one integrated into their otherwise very useful Groups service. Still, I shall be more careful because spelling matters only to point where the message is successfully communicated. I also addressed the issues of messages even though I mocked the spelling. > > Happens. Regardless, Trafalgar Square is not a example > > of "Show me an example..." > > ========================================== > > Correct, it is a site of when and what mass is constant in Nature. > > ==========================================- > > There's nothing poetic between site/cite. It's just a typo. > ============================================ > It rhymes, what more do you want? Poetic thoughts are not just about rhyming. I want depth of meaning, usually. > ============================================ > There's no > site which is constant in Nature, You're just plain wrong for even > making the statement that its mass is constant. > ============================================ > So you claim but have not proved. Assertion carries no weight, and > you've already capitulated with your statement "Time to end this > thread." When a thread harps on spelling too much, even if cross posted to sci.lang, it is time to end the silliness. I posted to the language group for getting some feedback, either of the historical kind, or of the rhetorical kind, regards meforce. I suspect some may have seen such a derivation in their collective experiences. > However, I am amused to the point where I will listen to your > argument a tad further. Please define "constant" and "mass" and then > proceed with a reason they are incompatible. > I suggest > 1)http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/constant[2] > b: a number that is assumed not to change value in a given mathematical > discussion > and > 2) http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mass[2] > c: the property of a body that is a measure of its inertia and that is > commonly taken as a measure of the amount of material it contains and causes > it to have weight in a gravitational field > > as a basis for your argument. The mass of any site, Trafalgar Square Circle or otherwise, is not a mathematical contant. I myself do not (re)define words. I use them, typos pronunciation and all. Usenet is a place where human errors in typing are expected; are more common; often forgiven. Rarely, however, if I am fortunate enough, I will make up a word by somehow chancing upon a brand new one. That Muse hasn't shown her inspiring face of late. > Should you disagree with these dictionary definitions you may > (s)ite your own, at the end of which I shall declare you "just plain wrong", > and of course my opinion carries more weight that yours. It is, after all, > mine. > ============================================ Good to see you're entertained. That's worth a smile and a few beers/ ales. Enjo(y). -- Mahipal ``We search our Earth and her limitless skies all the while discovering in our hearts and minds is where heaven lies'' http://mysite.verizon.net/mahipalvirdy/
From: Androcles on 10 Dec 2008 12:58
<mahipal7638(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:7be16a40-bbd6-4a47-add7-e5b8ab7b736d(a)d14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... On Dec 9, 5:32 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:a75b5675-1a21-4bb0-9e5a-7c4f9ee6404d(a)t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > On Dec 9, 1:32 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > > > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >news:7e805793-1636-4eb9-9efb-acc3cad15751(a)w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > > On Dec 9, 10:14 am, mahipal7...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > On Dec 8, 6:57 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > > > > > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:e2706f2d-080e-4afe-a2a2-c5274cf7d480(a)w35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > > > > On Dec 5, 10:15 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > > > > > > <mahipal7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > > > > >news:cb7d62aa-86b7-4f80-9a53-fdfb25b8f8fd(a)t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Dec 4, 3:38 pm, Puppet_Sock <puppet_s...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Dec 4, 1:20 pm, mahipal7...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > "$me$ always changes" is a Physics Truism. It's a given. An > > > > > > > Obviousism. > > > > > > > Well, except when mass is constant. Which is lots of the time. > > > > > > Site an example of when and what mass is constant in Nature. > > > > > > ========================================== > > > > > Ok, er... Trafalgar Square, London. Or did you want an example > > > > > cited? > > > > > If so you used the wrong poetic homonym. > > > > > I accept the written word is often subject to varied > > > > interpretations. > > > > ============================================ > > > > Different written words with different spelling such as site, sight, > > > > cite, > > > > slight and sleight have different meanings. > > > > ============================================ > > > > O, I wasn't thinking of mere individual words. > > > Ok I fumbled. You focused on Site/Cite, where I was on mass/mass. Mea > > cupla. I am known to make such errors of/from pronounciation. I've > > written mute for moot. It's in my cross-cultural upbringing, and I > > realize spell checkers alone are not enough. I confuse Mary for Meri; > > such for such. > > ================ > > and "cupla" for "culpa", "pronounciation" for "pronunciation", > > for which you are culpable. > > ================ > > Fine. > ================= > Very well, if that is your wish. You have admitted your culpability > and I fine you �1.50. Pay the clerk of the court on your way out. > All proceeds to a suitable charity named by me. Poetic justice, what? > ============================================ It was I who started the spelling nonsense with "reasoning". I suffered for it. It's poetic justice. I deserve the laughs. I owe you a beer. Cheers. As it happens, I do not use a spell checker. As I surley should. Google doesn't have one integrated into their otherwise very useful Groups service. Still, I shall be more careful because spelling matters only to point where the message is successfully communicated. I also addressed the issues of messages even though I mocked the spelling. > > Happens. Regardless, Trafalgar Square is not a example > > of "Show me an example..." > > ========================================== > > Correct, it is a site of when and what mass is constant in Nature. > > ==========================================- > > There's nothing poetic between site/cite. It's just a typo. > ============================================ > It rhymes, what more do you want? Poetic thoughts are not just about rhyming. I want depth of meaning, usually. > ============================================ > There's no > site which is constant in Nature, You're just plain wrong for even > making the statement that its mass is constant. > ============================================ > So you claim but have not proved. Assertion carries no weight, and > you've already capitulated with your statement "Time to end this > thread." When a thread harps on spelling too much, even if cross posted to sci.lang, it is time to end the silliness. I posted to the language group for getting some feedback, either of the historical kind, or of the rhetorical kind, regards meforce. I suspect some may have seen such a derivation in their collective experiences. > However, I am amused to the point where I will listen to your > argument a tad further. Please define "constant" and "mass" and then > proceed with a reason they are incompatible. > I suggest > 1)http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/constant[2] > b: a number that is assumed not to change value in a given mathematical > discussion > and > 2) http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mass[2] > c: the property of a body that is a measure of its inertia and that is > commonly taken as a measure of the amount of material it contains and > causes > it to have weight in a gravitational field > > as a basis for your argument. The mass of any site, Trafalgar Square Circle or otherwise, is not a mathematical contant. ============================================== Ok, you want a pantomime. Oh yes it is. Oh no it isn't.. Oh yes it is... Oh no it isn't.... Ad infinitum Have you won you argument yet? Oh no you haven't.... ============================================== I myself do not (re)define words. I use them, typos pronunciation and all. Usenet is a place where human errors in typing are expected; are more common; often forgiven. Rarely, however, if I am fortunate enough, I will make up a word by somehow chancing upon a brand new one. That Muse hasn't shown her inspiring face of late. ============================================ Oh yes she has. You were not looking. Have you won your argument yet? Oh no you haven't.... ============================================ > Should you disagree with these dictionary definitions you may > (s)ite your own, at the end of which I shall declare you "just plain > wrong", > and of course my opinion carries more weight that yours. It is, after all, > mine. > ============================================ Good to see you're entertained. That's worth a smile and a few beers/ ales. =================================================== I'm only entertained up to a point, I soon get bored. Especially by children's pantomimes. Mine's a Newcastle Brown. |