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From: Michael A. Terrell on 11 Oct 2009 02:33 Jim Thompson wrote: > > On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:18:14 -0400, Phil Hobbs > <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: > > >Joerg wrote: > >> Phil Hobbs wrote: > >>> Joerg wrote: > >>>> a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com wrote: > >>>>> Well I got a HP 5316A universal counter, with the 1GHz channel and the > >>>>> OCXO. > >>>>> Very nice, I think. Although I suppose I still have the problem of not > >>>>> knowing exactly the frequency of the OCXO is, after all there are > >>>>> coarse and fine adjustments on the can... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Well, there is WWV :-) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Eh, still, I'm pretty happy with the cheap stuff you can get with a > >>>>> bit of patience. > >>>>> I think that I will build a 10V "standard" from my AD588s, in a nice > >>>>> box. > >>>>> > >>>>> So, what kind of connectivity do you guys have in yuor lab? Is > >>>>> everything GPIB, USB, or some mix? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> A mix, and that's unavoidable. Older gear that is irreplaceable > >>>> (because they simply don't make some of the good stuff anymore) > >>>> inevitably comes with those dreaded HPIB garden hose connections. The > >>>> logic analyzer and some other gear I rarely use is from the RS232 > >>>> era. Modern gear like the DSO is USB. And I will absolutely not have > >>>> HPIB garden hoses here anymore. > >>>> > >>>> So, there is a Prologix HPIB/USB adaptor, an RS232/USB adaptor plus > >>>> the traditional USB spreader octopus. I raised the equipment rack by > >>>> 1-1/2" to make all that fit underneath, plus scope probes, chargers, > >>>> international outlets, a flat vise and whatever else is needed during > >>>> lab work. Nice thing is, a laptop can now talk to all the important > >>>> boxes. > >>>> > >>> > >>> I'm so used to GPIB that I'm probably not a good example. It's a > >>> great deal nicer than RS232, and given that it's been around so long, > >>> I don't have to worry much about OSes not supporting it in > >>> detail--unlike USB. > >>> > >> > >> GPIB is terrible. The topper happened a long time ago, after I had just > >> laid new carpet. Connector slipped off, the garden hose cable > >> ricocheted, hit my coffee mug which was half full ... *THWACK* ... flew > >> off and crashed onto new carpet. That was the end of GPIB for me. There > >> sure are better busses out there. I used to prefer RS232 but now > >> everything is USB. > >> > >> > >>> A nice Prologix GPIB-Ethernet is next on my list. > >>> > >> > >> If you have to use equipment at clients a lot and its legacy HP stuff > >> the USB version is very practical. Plug it in, hit print on the > >> analyzer, done. But Abdul (the Prologix designer) and I had to iron out > >> a bias problem before it liked HP legacy gear. > >> > > > >Spilling coffee is a criticism of a bus? GPIB can do about 1 MB/s when > >externally clocked, which is better than good enough for most things I > >need to do in the lab, and if I tighten the screws I can even keep my > >coffee and my carpet. ;) > > > >Cheers > > > >Phil Hobbs > > Joerg is accident prone... always *PHUT*ing ;-) He always has one *PHUT* in the grave... -- The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
From: krw on 11 Oct 2009 11:52 On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:33:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >Jim Thompson wrote: >> >> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:18:14 -0400, Phil Hobbs >> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >> >> >Joerg wrote: >> >> Phil Hobbs wrote: >> >>> Joerg wrote: >> >>>> a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com wrote: >> >>>>> Well I got a HP 5316A universal counter, with the 1GHz channel and the >> >>>>> OCXO. >> >>>>> Very nice, I think. Although I suppose I still have the problem of not >> >>>>> knowing exactly the frequency of the OCXO is, after all there are >> >>>>> coarse and fine adjustments on the can... >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Well, there is WWV :-) >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> Eh, still, I'm pretty happy with the cheap stuff you can get with a >> >>>>> bit of patience. >> >>>>> I think that I will build a 10V "standard" from my AD588s, in a nice >> >>>>> box. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> So, what kind of connectivity do you guys have in yuor lab? Is >> >>>>> everything GPIB, USB, or some mix? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> A mix, and that's unavoidable. Older gear that is irreplaceable >> >>>> (because they simply don't make some of the good stuff anymore) >> >>>> inevitably comes with those dreaded HPIB garden hose connections. The >> >>>> logic analyzer and some other gear I rarely use is from the RS232 >> >>>> era. Modern gear like the DSO is USB. And I will absolutely not have >> >>>> HPIB garden hoses here anymore. >> >>>> >> >>>> So, there is a Prologix HPIB/USB adaptor, an RS232/USB adaptor plus >> >>>> the traditional USB spreader octopus. I raised the equipment rack by >> >>>> 1-1/2" to make all that fit underneath, plus scope probes, chargers, >> >>>> international outlets, a flat vise and whatever else is needed during >> >>>> lab work. Nice thing is, a laptop can now talk to all the important >> >>>> boxes. >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> I'm so used to GPIB that I'm probably not a good example. It's a >> >>> great deal nicer than RS232, and given that it's been around so long, >> >>> I don't have to worry much about OSes not supporting it in >> >>> detail--unlike USB. >> >>> >> >> >> >> GPIB is terrible. The topper happened a long time ago, after I had just >> >> laid new carpet. Connector slipped off, the garden hose cable >> >> ricocheted, hit my coffee mug which was half full ... *THWACK* ... flew >> >> off and crashed onto new carpet. That was the end of GPIB for me. There >> >> sure are better busses out there. I used to prefer RS232 but now >> >> everything is USB. >> >> >> >> >> >>> A nice Prologix GPIB-Ethernet is next on my list. >> >>> >> >> >> >> If you have to use equipment at clients a lot and its legacy HP stuff >> >> the USB version is very practical. Plug it in, hit print on the >> >> analyzer, done. But Abdul (the Prologix designer) and I had to iron out >> >> a bias problem before it liked HP legacy gear. >> >> >> > >> >Spilling coffee is a criticism of a bus? GPIB can do about 1 MB/s when >> >externally clocked, which is better than good enough for most things I >> >need to do in the lab, and if I tighten the screws I can even keep my >> >coffee and my carpet. ;) >> > >> >Cheers >> > >> >Phil Hobbs >> >> Joerg is accident prone... always *PHUT*ing ;-) > > > He always has one *PHUT* in the grave... Very good!
From: Jim Thompson on 11 Oct 2009 12:05 On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:52:59 -0500, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:33:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" ><mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> >>Jim Thompson wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:18:14 -0400, Phil Hobbs >>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >>> >>> >Joerg wrote: >>> >> Phil Hobbs wrote: >>> >>> Joerg wrote: >>> >>>> a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com wrote: >>> >>>>> Well I got a HP 5316A universal counter, with the 1GHz channel and the >>> >>>>> OCXO. >>> >>>>> Very nice, I think. Although I suppose I still have the problem of not >>> >>>>> knowing exactly the frequency of the OCXO is, after all there are >>> >>>>> coarse and fine adjustments on the can... >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Well, there is WWV :-) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> Eh, still, I'm pretty happy with the cheap stuff you can get with a >>> >>>>> bit of patience. >>> >>>>> I think that I will build a 10V "standard" from my AD588s, in a nice >>> >>>>> box. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> So, what kind of connectivity do you guys have in yuor lab? Is >>> >>>>> everything GPIB, USB, or some mix? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> A mix, and that's unavoidable. Older gear that is irreplaceable >>> >>>> (because they simply don't make some of the good stuff anymore) >>> >>>> inevitably comes with those dreaded HPIB garden hose connections. The >>> >>>> logic analyzer and some other gear I rarely use is from the RS232 >>> >>>> era. Modern gear like the DSO is USB. And I will absolutely not have >>> >>>> HPIB garden hoses here anymore. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> So, there is a Prologix HPIB/USB adaptor, an RS232/USB adaptor plus >>> >>>> the traditional USB spreader octopus. I raised the equipment rack by >>> >>>> 1-1/2" to make all that fit underneath, plus scope probes, chargers, >>> >>>> international outlets, a flat vise and whatever else is needed during >>> >>>> lab work. Nice thing is, a laptop can now talk to all the important >>> >>>> boxes. >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm so used to GPIB that I'm probably not a good example. It's a >>> >>> great deal nicer than RS232, and given that it's been around so long, >>> >>> I don't have to worry much about OSes not supporting it in >>> >>> detail--unlike USB. >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> GPIB is terrible. The topper happened a long time ago, after I had just >>> >> laid new carpet. Connector slipped off, the garden hose cable >>> >> ricocheted, hit my coffee mug which was half full ... *THWACK* ... flew >>> >> off and crashed onto new carpet. That was the end of GPIB for me. There >>> >> sure are better busses out there. I used to prefer RS232 but now >>> >> everything is USB. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> A nice Prologix GPIB-Ethernet is next on my list. >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> If you have to use equipment at clients a lot and its legacy HP stuff >>> >> the USB version is very practical. Plug it in, hit print on the >>> >> analyzer, done. But Abdul (the Prologix designer) and I had to iron out >>> >> a bias problem before it liked HP legacy gear. >>> >> >>> > >>> >Spilling coffee is a criticism of a bus? GPIB can do about 1 MB/s when >>> >externally clocked, which is better than good enough for most things I >>> >need to do in the lab, and if I tighten the screws I can even keep my >>> >coffee and my carpet. ;) >>> > >>> >Cheers >>> > >>> >Phil Hobbs >>> >>> Joerg is accident prone... always *PHUT*ing ;-) >> >> >> He always has one *PHUT* in the grave... > > Very good! We need to have an SED get-together. If I hosted it, say in April, when AZ is absolutely delightful weather-wise, who would come? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: Phil Hobbs on 11 Oct 2009 14:55 Jim Thompson wrote: > On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:52:59 -0500, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > >> On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:33:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:18:14 -0400, Phil Hobbs >>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Joerg wrote: >>>>>> Phil Hobbs wrote: >>>>>>> Joerg wrote: >>>>>>>> a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> Well I got a HP 5316A universal counter, with the 1GHz channel and the >>>>>>>>> OCXO. >>>>>>>>> Very nice, I think. Although I suppose I still have the problem of not >>>>>>>>> knowing exactly the frequency of the OCXO is, after all there are >>>>>>>>> coarse and fine adjustments on the can... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, there is WWV :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Eh, still, I'm pretty happy with the cheap stuff you can get with a >>>>>>>>> bit of patience. >>>>>>>>> I think that I will build a 10V "standard" from my AD588s, in a nice >>>>>>>>> box. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, what kind of connectivity do you guys have in yuor lab? Is >>>>>>>>> everything GPIB, USB, or some mix? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A mix, and that's unavoidable. Older gear that is irreplaceable >>>>>>>> (because they simply don't make some of the good stuff anymore) >>>>>>>> inevitably comes with those dreaded HPIB garden hose connections. The >>>>>>>> logic analyzer and some other gear I rarely use is from the RS232 >>>>>>>> era. Modern gear like the DSO is USB. And I will absolutely not have >>>>>>>> HPIB garden hoses here anymore. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, there is a Prologix HPIB/USB adaptor, an RS232/USB adaptor plus >>>>>>>> the traditional USB spreader octopus. I raised the equipment rack by >>>>>>>> 1-1/2" to make all that fit underneath, plus scope probes, chargers, >>>>>>>> international outlets, a flat vise and whatever else is needed during >>>>>>>> lab work. Nice thing is, a laptop can now talk to all the important >>>>>>>> boxes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm so used to GPIB that I'm probably not a good example. It's a >>>>>>> great deal nicer than RS232, and given that it's been around so long, >>>>>>> I don't have to worry much about OSes not supporting it in >>>>>>> detail--unlike USB. >>>>>>> >>>>>> GPIB is terrible. The topper happened a long time ago, after I had just >>>>>> laid new carpet. Connector slipped off, the garden hose cable >>>>>> ricocheted, hit my coffee mug which was half full ... *THWACK* ... flew >>>>>> off and crashed onto new carpet. That was the end of GPIB for me. There >>>>>> sure are better busses out there. I used to prefer RS232 but now >>>>>> everything is USB. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> A nice Prologix GPIB-Ethernet is next on my list. >>>>>>> >>>>>> If you have to use equipment at clients a lot and its legacy HP stuff >>>>>> the USB version is very practical. Plug it in, hit print on the >>>>>> analyzer, done. But Abdul (the Prologix designer) and I had to iron out >>>>>> a bias problem before it liked HP legacy gear. >>>>>> >>>>> Spilling coffee is a criticism of a bus? GPIB can do about 1 MB/s when >>>>> externally clocked, which is better than good enough for most things I >>>>> need to do in the lab, and if I tighten the screws I can even keep my >>>>> coffee and my carpet. ;) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Phil Hobbs >>>> Joerg is accident prone... always *PHUT*ing ;-) >>> >>> He always has one *PHUT* in the grave... >> Very good! > > We need to have an SED get-together. If I hosted it, say in April, > when AZ is absolutely delightful weather-wise, who would come? > > ...Jim Thompson I'm in. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal ElectroOptical Innovations 55 Orchard Rd Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 845-480-2058 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
From: krw on 11 Oct 2009 15:58
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:05:12 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:52:59 -0500, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > >>On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:33:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >><mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> >>>Jim Thompson wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:18:14 -0400, Phil Hobbs >>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >Joerg wrote: >>>> >> Phil Hobbs wrote: >>>> >>> Joerg wrote: >>>> >>>> a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well I got a HP 5316A universal counter, with the 1GHz channel and the >>>> >>>>> OCXO. >>>> >>>>> Very nice, I think. Although I suppose I still have the problem of not >>>> >>>>> knowing exactly the frequency of the OCXO is, after all there are >>>> >>>>> coarse and fine adjustments on the can... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, there is WWV :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Eh, still, I'm pretty happy with the cheap stuff you can get with a >>>> >>>>> bit of patience. >>>> >>>>> I think that I will build a 10V "standard" from my AD588s, in a nice >>>> >>>>> box. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> So, what kind of connectivity do you guys have in yuor lab? Is >>>> >>>>> everything GPIB, USB, or some mix? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A mix, and that's unavoidable. Older gear that is irreplaceable >>>> >>>> (because they simply don't make some of the good stuff anymore) >>>> >>>> inevitably comes with those dreaded HPIB garden hose connections. The >>>> >>>> logic analyzer and some other gear I rarely use is from the RS232 >>>> >>>> era. Modern gear like the DSO is USB. And I will absolutely not have >>>> >>>> HPIB garden hoses here anymore. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So, there is a Prologix HPIB/USB adaptor, an RS232/USB adaptor plus >>>> >>>> the traditional USB spreader octopus. I raised the equipment rack by >>>> >>>> 1-1/2" to make all that fit underneath, plus scope probes, chargers, >>>> >>>> international outlets, a flat vise and whatever else is needed during >>>> >>>> lab work. Nice thing is, a laptop can now talk to all the important >>>> >>>> boxes. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I'm so used to GPIB that I'm probably not a good example. It's a >>>> >>> great deal nicer than RS232, and given that it's been around so long, >>>> >>> I don't have to worry much about OSes not supporting it in >>>> >>> detail--unlike USB. >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> GPIB is terrible. The topper happened a long time ago, after I had just >>>> >> laid new carpet. Connector slipped off, the garden hose cable >>>> >> ricocheted, hit my coffee mug which was half full ... *THWACK* ... flew >>>> >> off and crashed onto new carpet. That was the end of GPIB for me. There >>>> >> sure are better busses out there. I used to prefer RS232 but now >>>> >> everything is USB. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> A nice Prologix GPIB-Ethernet is next on my list. >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> If you have to use equipment at clients a lot and its legacy HP stuff >>>> >> the USB version is very practical. Plug it in, hit print on the >>>> >> analyzer, done. But Abdul (the Prologix designer) and I had to iron out >>>> >> a bias problem before it liked HP legacy gear. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >Spilling coffee is a criticism of a bus? GPIB can do about 1 MB/s when >>>> >externally clocked, which is better than good enough for most things I >>>> >need to do in the lab, and if I tighten the screws I can even keep my >>>> >coffee and my carpet. ;) >>>> > >>>> >Cheers >>>> > >>>> >Phil Hobbs >>>> >>>> Joerg is accident prone... always *PHUT*ing ;-) >>> >>> >>> He always has one *PHUT* in the grave... >> >> Very good! > >We need to have an SED get-together. If I hosted it, say in April, >when AZ is absolutely delightful weather-wise, who would come? I'd have to think about it. It's quite a trip to roast weenies. |