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From: Jim Thompson on 11 Oct 2009 20:20 On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:38:39 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:04:15 -0500, John Fields ><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: > >>On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:05:12 -0700, Jim Thompson >><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >> >> >>>We need to have an SED get-together. If I hosted it, say in April, >>>when AZ is absolutely delightful weather-wise, who would come? >> >>--- >>I would. :-) >> >>JF > >Noted and added to the list. > > ...Jim Thompson BTW, The invite includes wives, girl friends and "significant others". Believe it or not, we've been happily married for just months shy of 50 years, and my wife enjoys setting up a party... ask Spehro ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: Spehro Pefhany on 11 Oct 2009 21:30 On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:05:12 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:52:59 -0500, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > >>On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:33:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >><mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> >>>Jim Thompson wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:18:14 -0400, Phil Hobbs >>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >Joerg wrote: >>>> >> Phil Hobbs wrote: >>>> >>> Joerg wrote: >>>> >>>> a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well I got a HP 5316A universal counter, with the 1GHz channel and the >>>> >>>>> OCXO. >>>> >>>>> Very nice, I think. Although I suppose I still have the problem of not >>>> >>>>> knowing exactly the frequency of the OCXO is, after all there are >>>> >>>>> coarse and fine adjustments on the can... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, there is WWV :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Eh, still, I'm pretty happy with the cheap stuff you can get with a >>>> >>>>> bit of patience. >>>> >>>>> I think that I will build a 10V "standard" from my AD588s, in a nice >>>> >>>>> box. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> So, what kind of connectivity do you guys have in yuor lab? Is >>>> >>>>> everything GPIB, USB, or some mix? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A mix, and that's unavoidable. Older gear that is irreplaceable >>>> >>>> (because they simply don't make some of the good stuff anymore) >>>> >>>> inevitably comes with those dreaded HPIB garden hose connections. The >>>> >>>> logic analyzer and some other gear I rarely use is from the RS232 >>>> >>>> era. Modern gear like the DSO is USB. And I will absolutely not have >>>> >>>> HPIB garden hoses here anymore. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So, there is a Prologix HPIB/USB adaptor, an RS232/USB adaptor plus >>>> >>>> the traditional USB spreader octopus. I raised the equipment rack by >>>> >>>> 1-1/2" to make all that fit underneath, plus scope probes, chargers, >>>> >>>> international outlets, a flat vise and whatever else is needed during >>>> >>>> lab work. Nice thing is, a laptop can now talk to all the important >>>> >>>> boxes. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I'm so used to GPIB that I'm probably not a good example. It's a >>>> >>> great deal nicer than RS232, and given that it's been around so long, >>>> >>> I don't have to worry much about OSes not supporting it in >>>> >>> detail--unlike USB. >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> GPIB is terrible. The topper happened a long time ago, after I had just >>>> >> laid new carpet. Connector slipped off, the garden hose cable >>>> >> ricocheted, hit my coffee mug which was half full ... *THWACK* ... flew >>>> >> off and crashed onto new carpet. That was the end of GPIB for me. There >>>> >> sure are better busses out there. I used to prefer RS232 but now >>>> >> everything is USB. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> A nice Prologix GPIB-Ethernet is next on my list. >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> If you have to use equipment at clients a lot and its legacy HP stuff >>>> >> the USB version is very practical. Plug it in, hit print on the >>>> >> analyzer, done. But Abdul (the Prologix designer) and I had to iron out >>>> >> a bias problem before it liked HP legacy gear. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >Spilling coffee is a criticism of a bus? GPIB can do about 1 MB/s when >>>> >externally clocked, which is better than good enough for most things I >>>> >need to do in the lab, and if I tighten the screws I can even keep my >>>> >coffee and my carpet. ;) >>>> > >>>> >Cheers >>>> > >>>> >Phil Hobbs >>>> >>>> Joerg is accident prone... always *PHUT*ing ;-) >>> >>> >>> He always has one *PHUT* in the grave... >> >> Very good! > >We need to have an SED get-together. If I hosted it, say in April, >when AZ is absolutely delightful weather-wise, who would come? > > ...Jim Thompson One more here.
From: Jim Thompson on 11 Oct 2009 23:36 On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:30:34 -0400, Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP(a)interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: >On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:05:12 -0700, Jim Thompson ><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > >>On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:52:59 -0500, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:33:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >>><mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:18:14 -0400, Phil Hobbs >>>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >Joerg wrote: >>>>> >> Phil Hobbs wrote: >>>>> >>> Joerg wrote: >>>>> >>>> a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well I got a HP 5316A universal counter, with the 1GHz channel and the >>>>> >>>>> OCXO. >>>>> >>>>> Very nice, I think. Although I suppose I still have the problem of not >>>>> >>>>> knowing exactly the frequency of the OCXO is, after all there are >>>>> >>>>> coarse and fine adjustments on the can... >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Well, there is WWV :-) >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Eh, still, I'm pretty happy with the cheap stuff you can get with a >>>>> >>>>> bit of patience. >>>>> >>>>> I think that I will build a 10V "standard" from my AD588s, in a nice >>>>> >>>>> box. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So, what kind of connectivity do you guys have in yuor lab? Is >>>>> >>>>> everything GPIB, USB, or some mix? >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> A mix, and that's unavoidable. Older gear that is irreplaceable >>>>> >>>> (because they simply don't make some of the good stuff anymore) >>>>> >>>> inevitably comes with those dreaded HPIB garden hose connections. The >>>>> >>>> logic analyzer and some other gear I rarely use is from the RS232 >>>>> >>>> era. Modern gear like the DSO is USB. And I will absolutely not have >>>>> >>>> HPIB garden hoses here anymore. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> So, there is a Prologix HPIB/USB adaptor, an RS232/USB adaptor plus >>>>> >>>> the traditional USB spreader octopus. I raised the equipment rack by >>>>> >>>> 1-1/2" to make all that fit underneath, plus scope probes, chargers, >>>>> >>>> international outlets, a flat vise and whatever else is needed during >>>>> >>>> lab work. Nice thing is, a laptop can now talk to all the important >>>>> >>>> boxes. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> I'm so used to GPIB that I'm probably not a good example. It's a >>>>> >>> great deal nicer than RS232, and given that it's been around so long, >>>>> >>> I don't have to worry much about OSes not supporting it in >>>>> >>> detail--unlike USB. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> GPIB is terrible. The topper happened a long time ago, after I had just >>>>> >> laid new carpet. Connector slipped off, the garden hose cable >>>>> >> ricocheted, hit my coffee mug which was half full ... *THWACK* ... flew >>>>> >> off and crashed onto new carpet. That was the end of GPIB for me. There >>>>> >> sure are better busses out there. I used to prefer RS232 but now >>>>> >> everything is USB. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> A nice Prologix GPIB-Ethernet is next on my list. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> If you have to use equipment at clients a lot and its legacy HP stuff >>>>> >> the USB version is very practical. Plug it in, hit print on the >>>>> >> analyzer, done. But Abdul (the Prologix designer) and I had to iron out >>>>> >> a bias problem before it liked HP legacy gear. >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> >Spilling coffee is a criticism of a bus? GPIB can do about 1 MB/s when >>>>> >externally clocked, which is better than good enough for most things I >>>>> >need to do in the lab, and if I tighten the screws I can even keep my >>>>> >coffee and my carpet. ;) >>>>> > >>>>> >Cheers >>>>> > >>>>> >Phil Hobbs >>>>> >>>>> Joerg is accident prone... always *PHUT*ing ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> He always has one *PHUT* in the grave... >>> >>> Very good! >> >>We need to have an SED get-together. If I hosted it, say in April, >>when AZ is absolutely delightful weather-wise, who would come? >> >> ...Jim Thompson > >One more here. et C ?:-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: Spehro Pefhany on 12 Oct 2009 00:45 On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:36:07 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:30:34 -0400, Spehro Pefhany ><speffSNIP(a)interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: > >>On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:05:12 -0700, Jim Thompson >><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:52:59 -0500, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:33:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >>>><mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:18:14 -0400, Phil Hobbs >>>>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >Joerg wrote: >>>>>> >> Phil Hobbs wrote: >>>>>> >>> Joerg wrote: >>>>>> >>>> a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> Well I got a HP 5316A universal counter, with the 1GHz channel and the >>>>>> >>>>> OCXO. >>>>>> >>>>> Very nice, I think. Although I suppose I still have the problem of not >>>>>> >>>>> knowing exactly the frequency of the OCXO is, after all there are >>>>>> >>>>> coarse and fine adjustments on the can... >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Well, there is WWV :-) >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Eh, still, I'm pretty happy with the cheap stuff you can get with a >>>>>> >>>>> bit of patience. >>>>>> >>>>> I think that I will build a 10V "standard" from my AD588s, in a nice >>>>>> >>>>> box. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> So, what kind of connectivity do you guys have in yuor lab? Is >>>>>> >>>>> everything GPIB, USB, or some mix? >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> A mix, and that's unavoidable. Older gear that is irreplaceable >>>>>> >>>> (because they simply don't make some of the good stuff anymore) >>>>>> >>>> inevitably comes with those dreaded HPIB garden hose connections. The >>>>>> >>>> logic analyzer and some other gear I rarely use is from the RS232 >>>>>> >>>> era. Modern gear like the DSO is USB. And I will absolutely not have >>>>>> >>>> HPIB garden hoses here anymore. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> So, there is a Prologix HPIB/USB adaptor, an RS232/USB adaptor plus >>>>>> >>>> the traditional USB spreader octopus. I raised the equipment rack by >>>>>> >>>> 1-1/2" to make all that fit underneath, plus scope probes, chargers, >>>>>> >>>> international outlets, a flat vise and whatever else is needed during >>>>>> >>>> lab work. Nice thing is, a laptop can now talk to all the important >>>>>> >>>> boxes. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> I'm so used to GPIB that I'm probably not a good example. It's a >>>>>> >>> great deal nicer than RS232, and given that it's been around so long, >>>>>> >>> I don't have to worry much about OSes not supporting it in >>>>>> >>> detail--unlike USB. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> GPIB is terrible. The topper happened a long time ago, after I had just >>>>>> >> laid new carpet. Connector slipped off, the garden hose cable >>>>>> >> ricocheted, hit my coffee mug which was half full ... *THWACK* ... flew >>>>>> >> off and crashed onto new carpet. That was the end of GPIB for me. There >>>>>> >> sure are better busses out there. I used to prefer RS232 but now >>>>>> >> everything is USB. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> A nice Prologix GPIB-Ethernet is next on my list. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> If you have to use equipment at clients a lot and its legacy HP stuff >>>>>> >> the USB version is very practical. Plug it in, hit print on the >>>>>> >> analyzer, done. But Abdul (the Prologix designer) and I had to iron out >>>>>> >> a bias problem before it liked HP legacy gear. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Spilling coffee is a criticism of a bus? GPIB can do about 1 MB/s when >>>>>> >externally clocked, which is better than good enough for most things I >>>>>> >need to do in the lab, and if I tighten the screws I can even keep my >>>>>> >coffee and my carpet. ;) >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Cheers >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Phil Hobbs >>>>>> >>>>>> Joerg is accident prone... always *PHUT*ing ;-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> He always has one *PHUT* in the grave... >>>> >>>> Very good! >>> >>>We need to have an SED get-together. If I hosted it, say in April, >>>when AZ is absolutely delightful weather-wise, who would come? >>> >>> ...Jim Thompson >> >>One more here. > >et C ?:-) > > ...Jim Thompson More than likely, yes.
From: JW on 12 Oct 2009 06:29
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:09:54 -0700 Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in Message id: <7ja1mpF2pe4k2U1(a)mid.individual.net>: >If you have to use equipment at clients a lot and its legacy HP stuff >the USB version is very practical. Plug it in, hit print on the >analyzer, done. But Abdul (the Prologix designer) and I had to iron out >a bias problem before it liked HP legacy gear. I've been having problems communicating with HP 60XX power supplies (6034 and 6038 come to mind) Do you have any details on the fix you might share? |