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From: Brad Rogers on 12 Mar 2010 11:10 On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:13:04 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón <noelamac(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello Camaleón, > On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:35:16 +0000, Brad Rogers wrote: > > IM(admittedly limted)E, if X doesn't get the resolution right, xrandr > > won't be able to detect it any better. > To be sincere, nowadays that X in "dinamically" setup, I'm not sure. My experience relates to now. However, what I'm seeing is an improvement on what I got about 6 months ago, when X woudn't even start on this hardware. > I had previous experiences with xorg configuration that couldn't > properly detect the display resolution but just by forcing it (writing > up in xorg.conf file) it just worked :-? Which is what I'll be doing tonight, probably. > Also, using a digital output -DVI instead VGA- (if available) can help > X to detect the screen size and adjust it accordingly. Sadly, not an option; No DVI o/p on this machine. > Another thing to look into is the driver in use. Different drivers > deliver different results. Yes, I know that not everyone likes using > closed drivers but is just another option to test. I'm not that bothered about whenther I use nv or nvidia, so yes, that opens another avenue for me to explore. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" To the ends of the earth, you look for sense in it No Time To Be 21 - The Adverts
From: Paul E Condon on 12 Mar 2010 12:00 On 20100312_102211, John W Foster wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul E Condon <pecondon(a)mesanetworks.net> > To: debian-user(a)lists.debian.org <snip> > Hi Paul: > I read thru the install log from xorg & it looks like everything is > doing as it should. I am wondering if this new flat screen is a > letterbox shaped screen or a standard shaped screen. I suspect this is > an "aspect ratio" issue rather than a "screen resolution" issue though > it may be a combination of both. I have little experience with the > letterbox screens but I am planing to buy one soon & am studying the > list & other tings for compatibility as I do not want to incur this type > of issue. Please post your solution when you get it going correctly. > Best wishes! > -- > John Foster > The pixels are specified to be 0.252mm(H)x0.252mm(V), which implies an aspect ratio of 1366:768. This is close to 16:9, but not exact. To be exact would have to be e.g. 1366:768.375 or 1365.333:768. Both have fractional number of pixels, which of course is impossible. So there must be some 'engineering hack'. I have no idea what ugly hacks are done to make beautiful Xwindows design concept fit with ugly real world of integer arithmetic ;-) What really puzzles me is the fact that two recent installs of X arrive at different kludge solutions -on-the-same-hardware-. -- Paul E Condon pecondon(a)mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100312165417.GH4159(a)big.lan.gnu
From: John W Foster on 12 Mar 2010 12:30 -----Original Message----- From: Paul E Condon <pecondon(a)mesanetworks.net> To: debian-user(a)lists.debian.org Subject: need help with xorg.conf Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:42:16 -0700 I have a cheap flat screen monitor on one of my computers. I works nicely, but not perfectly with Lenny. But in a much inferior way when I switch to Squeeze. In particular: The screen is 1366x768 according to the user manual that came with it. Under Lenny, X chooses to run it at 1280x768 which is OK, but Under Squeeze, X chooses 1024x768 which makes things that should be circle into broad elipses. And wastes a lot of the resolution on over-size characters. I would like to try composing some configuration lines and inserting them in a conf file, xorg.conf, I think, but I'm not sure. Some quidance would be greatly appreciated. -- Paul E Condon pecondon(a)mesanetworks.net ---------------------------------------- Hi Paul: I read thru the install log from xorg & it looks like everything is doing as it should. I am wondering if this new flat screen is a letterbox shaped screen or a standard shaped screen. I suspect this is an "aspect ratio" issue rather than a "screen resolution" issue though it may be a combination of both. I have little experience with the letterbox screens but I am planing to buy one soon & am studying the list & other tings for compatibility as I do not want to incur this type of issue. Please post your solution when you get it going correctly. Best wishes! -- John Foster -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1268410931.28649.5.camel(a)brutus
From: Aioanei Rares on 12 Mar 2010 12:30 John W Foster wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul E Condon <pecondon(a)mesanetworks.net> > To: debian-user(a)lists.debian.org > Subject: need help with xorg.conf > Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:42:16 -0700 > > I have a cheap flat screen monitor on one of my computers. I works > nicely, but not perfectly with Lenny. But in a much inferior way when > I switch to Squeeze. > > In particular: > > The screen is 1366x768 according to the user manual that came with it. > Under Lenny, X chooses to run it at 1280x768 which is OK, but > Under Squeeze, X chooses 1024x768 which makes things that should be > circle into broad elipses. And wastes a lot of the resolution on > over-size characters. > > I would like to try composing some configuration lines and inserting > them in a conf file, xorg.conf, I think, but I'm not sure. > > Some quidance would be greatly appreciated. > > X --configure (as root); alter the xorg.conf as desired, test it with X --config <xorg.conf.filename>, and if you like it, copy the file in /etc/X11/ as xorg.conf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4B9A7949.70109(a)gmail.com
From: Andrew Sackville-West on 12 Mar 2010 14:40
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 01:11:14PM -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: [...] > > OK, we learn a lot from the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file. > > Your Integrated graphics card is > > > (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 5333:8d04:1462:3908 S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] rev 0, Mem @ 0xe1000000/524288, 0xd8000000/134217728, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 > > I thought at first that the stuff within parentheses might be the chipset. > But I found out later that I was wrong. We'll see why in a minute. > X chose the "savage" driver. It lists the chipsets which it supports. > > > (II) SAVAGE: driver (version 2.3.1) for S3 Savage chipsets: Savage4, > > Savage3D, Savage3D-MV, Savage2000, Savage/MX-MV, Savage/MX, > > Savage/IX-MV, Savage/IX, ProSavage PM133, ProSavage KM133, [... snip a lot of great stuff...] > > After tossing out all the modes that aren't supported by the video BIOS, > or that won't work for some other reason, it decides to reduce the virtual > screen size. > > > (--) SAVAGE(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024) > > And things are all downhill from there. > > The bottom line: the problem is not with your monitor. The problem is that > the savage driver wants to use the video BIOS to set the video mode. > > The single most important thing you must have in any xorg.conf file is > > Option "UseBIOS" "off" > > This goes in the "Device" section. If you need more help, let me know, > and I'll try to come up with a specific xorg.conf file for you. I just wanted to say this is just a fantastic explanation of the log file. nice job. A |