From: William Neuhaus on
How do you install newsgroups in the new iMac 27" model. OS is 10.6 I don't
see it as a new account option and it doesn't appear under general help.
Thanks in advance.

From: Phillip Jones on
Michael Vilain wrote:
> In article<C7CFE8B9.358B%wneuhaus(a)cfl.rr.com>,
> William Neuhaus<wneuhaus(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> How do you install newsgroups in the new iMac 27" model. OS is 10.6 I don't
>> see it as a new account option and it doesn't appear under general help.
>> Thanks in advance.
>
> You don't "install newsgroups". You run a software application (e.g.
> the Opera browser, MT-Newswatcher, Unison, or [gag] Thoth) on you system
> which connects to news _servers_. I don't know if RoadRunner has
> stopped offering free news access, but there are 3rd-party news
> providers, free or for nominal yearly fee with varying values of article
> retention.
>
Thunderbird and SeaMonkey also do newsgroups (as well as email).

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From: Richard Maine on
Michael Vilain <vilain(a)NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> In article <C7CFE8B9.358B%wneuhaus(a)cfl.rr.com>,
> William Neuhaus <wneuhaus(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > How do you install newsgroups in the new iMac 27" model. OS is 10.6 I don't
> > see it as a new account option and it doesn't appear under general help.
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> You don't "install newsgroups". You run a software application (e.g.
> the Opera browser, MT-Newswatcher, Unison, or [gag] Thoth) on you system
> which connects to news _servers_. I don't know if RoadRunner has
> stopped offering free news access, but there are 3rd-party news
> providers, free or for nominal yearly fee with varying values of article
> retention.

I note that the OP appears to have posted using MS Outlook Express for
Mac via newshosting.com. While neither of those would be my personal
first choice (newshosting.com appears to be aiming at large binary usage
or some such - their cheapest plan is $10/month, compared to the 10
Eu/year I'm paying for individual.net), it does suggest that the OP at
least has access to such. The post doesn't have enough information for
me to figure out what is going on. I assume he isn't doing that from the
system in question or the post would be self-answering, but perhaps
there is some confusion that I haven't figured out.

If this was posted from some previous system of his own, then that would
imply he already has an account with newshosting. But maybe is using
their free trial, or maybe it was posted from some friend's system.

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domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain
From: Michael on

"Richard Maine" <nospam(a)see.signature> wrote in message
news:1jfv2mw.16vbyk21ldpcdsN%nospam(a)see.signature...
> Michael Vilain <vilain(a)NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>
>> In article <C7CFE8B9.358B%wneuhaus(a)cfl.rr.com>,
>> William Neuhaus <wneuhaus(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> > How do you install newsgroups in the new iMac 27" model. OS is 10.6 I
>> > don't
>> > see it as a new account option and it doesn't appear under general
>> > help.
>> > Thanks in advance.
>>
>> You don't "install newsgroups". You run a software application (e.g.
>> the Opera browser, MT-Newswatcher, Unison, or [gag] Thoth) on you system
>> which connects to news _servers_. I don't know if RoadRunner has
>> stopped offering free news access, but there are 3rd-party news
>> providers, free or for nominal yearly fee with varying values of article
>> retention.
>
> I note that the OP appears to have posted using MS Outlook Express for
> Mac via newshosting.com. While neither of those would be my personal
> first choice (newshosting.com appears to be aiming at large binary usage
> or some such - their cheapest plan is $10/month, compared to the 10
> Eu/year I'm paying for individual.net), it does suggest that the OP at
> least has access to such. The post doesn't have enough information for
> me to figure out what is going on. I assume he isn't doing that from the
> system in question or the post would be self-answering, but perhaps
> there is some confusion that I haven't figured out.
>
> If this was posted from some previous system of his own, then that would
> imply he already has an account with newshosting. But maybe is using
> their free trial, or maybe it was posted from some friend's system.
>
> --
> Richard Maine | Good judgment comes from experience;
> email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment.
> domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain

I'm sorry for not being more specific. I have 3 pc's running 2000pro, vista,
and Win7. I'm new to W7 and it's email program let's me have 5 email
addresses, rss, and newsgroups in one group. I don't know Macs and I was
trying to help my father. A few kind people had posted how to do folders,
etc. in the email program and Dad got them all set up and asked me to say
thanks. He's had Macs since around 1984 but he's 83 now and his eyes miss
some of the "fine print". I don't know the OS's but he has a mac laptop (the
one using parellels or something that has dual booting into window and a mac
os), then he has a mac model that has the white half globe shaped stand with
a decent size screen that uses os9 something and I think he said he had some
features from 10.

He does have outlook exp. on that one and uses it for his mail and
newsgroups. It used to have mac mail but it keeps asking for a "keychain
password" and he doesn't remember it. I don't know if this mail app. is
setup with Roadrunner or is something only on his machine meaning if he
forgot the password, no one can help him. At least the mail works in OE.
That's the machine I used earlier to ask about newsgroups being able to be
put on the new iMac 27", 3.06 chip I think it was (the less expensive one).
That's why you might see my email address for this post since I'm using my
windows laptop and before I was using his.

Due to the kind advice we received, he was able to set up his email on the
new machine. I thought ng's might be set up like my windows system and be
considered another "account" choice like Mail, News, etc. but I don't see
that option. I tried even General Help for the whole machine and it said
"not found". I don't really know Macs and Dad hasn't really used ng's in the
past. Roadrunner gives us free ng access, there are about 80,000 groups and
all you need is the name of the news server and sometimes the port.

I think that's all the info I know. Again, thank you in advance for any help
given.


From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kir=E1ly?= on
Michael <mcsemike50(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Due to the kind advice we received, he was able to set up his email on the
> new machine. I thought ng's might be set up like my windows system and be
> considered another "account" choice like Mail, News, etc. but I don't see
> that option.

Apple's Mail program doesn't do Usenet. There is no built-in OS X
Usenet client. You have to download a third party program.
MT-Newswatcher is a good one. After installing it you have to configure
it to use whatever Usenet server you have subscribed to.

> I don't really know Macs and Dad hasn't really used ng's in the past.

He has never used Usenet before? Unless he has specifically
mentioned to you that he is interested in learning about Usenet and
how it works, I'd suggest that you forget about setting him up with
Usenet. It is largely an anachronism. Most internet users today
aren't even aware that Usenet exists, and many of those that do, think
it is run by Google. Today's Usenet users tend to be of two stripes:
They have been internet users for 20 years and pine for the good old
days, or they are "clueless newbie google groupers". The former can be
downright nasty on the latter. Your dad should be able to find decent
enough discussions on web forums, which eclipsed Usenet for internet
discussions many years ago.

--
K.

Lang may your lum reek.