From: M.L. on


>>>>I have always installed most programs to D:

>>>>When I reinstall the operating system my programs are still sitting
>>>>safely on D:.
>>>
>>>If you installed your programs under 'C:\Program Files' and took a
>>>regular image of that partition, when you restored it the programs
>>>would also be there without any further tinkering.
>>
>>But the imaging process would take longer and the final archive would
>>be larger. One has to weigh that against the possible D drive
>>tinkering afterwards.
>
>How much longer? How much larger?

My C and D partitions are 34 and 13 GB respectively on my Vista
system, so including the D drive imaging would take about 38% longer
and the final archive would be about 38% larger, assuming the process
is proportional.

>Taking an image would certainly take longer if the C:\ partition also
>contained the user's Program Files. In my case the complete C:\
>partition consumes 1.6GB with 0.9GB of that being Program Files.
>
>Taking an image of the whole lot takes ~45secs. Based upon my own
>situation, the image size is currently ~1.2GB, without Program Files it
>would be ~0.5GB.

>For this I get all my programs included in the image - one single image
>backup containing the Op/Sys, Program Files and of course the Registry.
>Restore time is about 30secs using a Linux boot CD.
>
>All that said, there are other partitions I have which I mirror onto
>other physical drives instead of imaging because they are so big and
>the imaging time takes up to 25mins for a 640GB partition.
From: HTH on
M.L. wrote:

>My C and D partitions are 34 and 13 GB respectively on my Vista
>system, so including the D drive imaging would take about 38% longer
>and the final archive would be about 38% larger, assuming the process
>is proportional.


I doubt if adding 38% of files would add quite 38% more time since the
imaging process only needs to start up once. And you don't say what disk
space is used on each - do you really have 13GB of programs? and Vista
really takes up 34GB?

Whatever, one of my own partitions has 17GB of files on it and imaging
it takes ~4.5mins. Adding 38% would add 1.7mins. I wouldn't think twice
about adding that lot together.


YMMV :-)

From: M.L. on


>>My C and D partitions are 34 and 13 GB respectively on my Vista
>>system, so including the D drive imaging would take about 38% longer
>>and the final archive would be about 38% larger, assuming the process
>>is proportional.

>I doubt if adding 38% of files would add quite 38% more time since the
>imaging process only needs to start up once. And you don't say what disk
>space is used on each - do you really have 13GB of programs? and Vista
>really takes up 34GB?

The 250 GB drive apportions approx 116 GB to each. 34 and 13 GB
represent the actual amount of used space on each drive.

>Whatever, one of my own partitions has 17GB of files on it and imaging
>it takes ~4.5mins. Adding 38% would add 1.7mins. I wouldn't think twice
>about adding that lot together.

From: HTH on
Robb wrote:

>I appreciate your response and respect that you are trying to help me.

quite so :-)
It's a fairly interesting subject which often gets debated.

>When I think back, I probably initiated installing my programs to D: in
>my earlier Windows days when I was dual booting Windows versions or
>sometimes also booting Ubuntu as a third option.

That's a very good reason for setting things up the way you have.

>Having installed my programs to D: meant that whatever Windows or
>Ubuntu operating system I logged into, any changes I made to the data
>on D: was available to all operating systems.

When I put the current system together, I thought seriously about how
to partition the HDDs (3x 640GB + 1x 500GB) and how to back them up,
because multiple partitions have pros/cons as discussed recently in
another thread.
The major issue that came to light was whether Program Files should be
alongside the Op/sys on C:\ or on a seperate partition. In view of my
quite small Op/sys installation (0.6GB) and the advent of disk imaging,
I decided to keep them all together like on the previous system, but
then I don't multi-boot and have no plans to do so.

But I still have a bunch of partitions to handle mirroring backups of
audio/video etc so eg: the Audio partition on drive 1 is mirrored to
the Audio-bu partition on drive 3 etc. For stuff which is very
important I double backup: once as part of a regular image on a 2nd
drive and once as a mirror on a 3rd drive.
I think I worked out a backup regime which should mean that if any
single HDD fails, I can always recover without loss.


>Thanks all for your suggestions, I'm pretty comfortable doing things
>the way I'm doing them and won't be making significant changes in
>future.

From: HTH on
M.L. wrote:

>The 250 GB drive apportions approx 116 GB to each. 34 and 13 GB
>represent the actual amount of used space on each drive.

Wow! Is your installation of Vista fairly regular? or do you have a lot
of other stuff on that partition? As said, my XP-Pro op/sys takes about
0.6GB of disk space and is fully functional, except for 'restore points'
and 'indexing' disabled ...both superfluous for me.

Ditto your Program Files: do you have a lot of biggy apps installed?
Mine only take a trivial 0.9GB of disk space.


HTH

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