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From: Stan Hoeppner on 15 Apr 2010 19:20 Hugo Vanwoerkom put forth on 4/15/2010 2:34 PM: > That's a real pain. > NewEgg has no filter on netcards for mobo's Yeah, I know, it sucks. I wasted a lot of time doing research for a previous thread trying to hunt down mobos with Intel or non-Realtek ether chips. It's a slow process. See if you can find a way to ask for that search criteria. I'll do the same. Might have to call customer service. It would be really nice to see that option. BTW, ever tried finding Atom based mobos on Newegg? That's a pain also. They're only listed in the mobo-vga-cpu combo section. Before that they were in the server motherboard section, or at least some were. If you're an Intel guy, look at Intel brand mobos only as most of them have Intel ethernet chips, eg e100/e1000 driver. Some Intel boards do have Realtek ethernet chips so pay attention. On the AMD side, look for motherboards with nVidia chipsets which usually have ethernet build into the MCP southbridge. Sometimes, to get everything you want, you end up buying a PCI/e NIC and disabling the onboard. I know some sysops who do this as a matter of course because they're convinced any on-board "free" NIC is cheap and thus not reliable. So they go buy an e1000 card, and it's the same damn chip lol. Anyway... -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BC79D57.1040305(a)hardwarefreak.com
From: Ron Johnson on 15 Apr 2010 19:30 On 2010-04-15 18:12, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom put forth on 4/15/2010 2:34 PM: > >> That's a real pain. >> NewEgg has no filter on netcards for mobo's > > Yeah, I know, it sucks. I wasted a lot of time doing research for a > previous thread trying to hunt down mobos with Intel or non-Realtek ether > chips. It's a slow process. See if you can find a way to ask for that > search criteria. I'll do the same. Might have to call customer service. > It would be really nice to see that option. BTW, ever tried finding Atom > based mobos on Newegg? That's a pain also. They're only listed in the > mobo-vga-cpu combo section. Before that they were in the server motherboard > section, or at least some were. > Are there any Atom mobos that are *not* highly integrated? I think probably not. Cutting through the double-negatives: all the Atoms are in the mobo-vga-cpu combo section because NewEgg only sells Atoms in highly integrated mobos. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BC79FBB.4060506(a)cox.net
From: Stan Hoeppner on 15 Apr 2010 19:50 Ron Johnson put forth on 4/15/2010 6:22 PM: > On 2010-04-15 18:12, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> Hugo Vanwoerkom put forth on 4/15/2010 2:34 PM: >> >>> That's a real pain. >>> NewEgg has no filter on netcards for mobo's >> >> Yeah, I know, it sucks. I wasted a lot of time doing research for a >> previous thread trying to hunt down mobos with Intel or non-Realtek ether >> chips. It's a slow process. See if you can find a way to ask for that >> search criteria. I'll do the same. Might have to call customer service. >> It would be really nice to see that option. BTW, ever tried finding Atom >> based mobos on Newegg? That's a pain also. They're only listed in the >> mobo-vga-cpu combo section. Before that they were in the server >> motherboard >> section, or at least some were. >> > > Are there any Atom mobos that are *not* highly integrated? I think > probably not. > > Cutting through the double-negatives: all the Atoms are in the > mobo-vga-cpu combo section because NewEgg only sells Atoms in highly > integrated mobos. Thanks for re-stating the obvious Ron. There should be an Atom heading under "Intel motherboards", or at the least Atom should be listed in either the "socket type" or "processor type" drop downs in the advanced search under Intel. Currently Atom is not listed in either location. It should be. If you enter the "Intel motherboards" section, you cannot get to Atom products. This is just stupid. Atom is an Intel product. Atom based mobos should be listed in the main "Intel motherboard" section. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BC7A426.40705(a)hardwarefreak.com
From: Hugo Vanwoerkom on 16 Apr 2010 15:30 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-04-15 13:55, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] >>> >>> ATX means you'll get lots of built-in features. I like my Gigabyte >>> GA-MA780G-UD3H mobo with AM2+/AM2 socket. >>> >>> 8GM RAM, 6 SATA, 1 (or 2, I forget) rear eSATA, lots of USB, a front >>> and rear Firewire and decent on-board audio. On-board ATI video with >>> separate video RAM, but I installed a fanless NVIDIA card because the >>> driver situation is *simple*, and it's fast. >>> >> >> Too bad it's a NewEgg outofstock item: >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128382 >> > > This looks like the successor. > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128411 > But then there is the Realtek 8111C chip issue again. I prefer not to have to revert to compiling my own kernel again. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hqadgb$agb$2(a)dough.gmane.org
From: Clive McBarton on 18 Apr 2010 16:10
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > ATX means you'll get lots of built-in features. I like my Gigabyte > GA-MA780G-UD3H mobo with AM2+/AM2 socket. > > 8GM RAM, 6 SATA, 1 (or 2, I forget) rear eSATA, lots of USB, a front and > rear Firewire and decent on-board audio. On-board ATI video with > separate video RAM, but I installed a fanless NVIDIA card because the > driver situation is *simple*, and it's fast. That's good to hear, and it makes me curious. Does the "simple" refer to the open-source or the closed-source NVIDIA driver? And is it general consensus that NVIDIA is easier to deal with than ATI? After all, you installed a card after you already had on-board graphics. Also, I vagely recall having heard that a 64bit-OS might be trickier to deal with when it comes to graphics drivers. Is that true? Here I see 8 Gig of RAM, hence presumably a 64bit system. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkvLZxkACgkQ+VSRxYk4409sSQCeLyHCUBOv+T2BggQSJxn+ohGb IM8AoNU3KYTW4LpVzR9HJkXB+GMMk1ac =SHLp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BCB6719.3030703(a)web.de |