From: Tim Bradshaw on
On 2009-11-18 16:27:32 +0000, Madhu <enometh(a)meer.net> said:

> Maybe i should take my long vacation now..

I was going to say "oh yes, please" but I realise of course you're
quite entertaining. I'm thinking of adding an entry to my mad list for
the first time in *years*.

From: Madhu on

* Tim Bradshaw <2009111820492416807-tfb(a)cleycom> :
Wrote on Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:49:24 +0000:

| On 2009-11-18 16:27:32 +0000, Madhu <enometh(a)meer.net> said:
|
|> Maybe i should take my long vacation now..
|
| I was going to say "oh yes, please" but I realise of course you're
| quite entertaining. I'm thinking of adding an entry to my mad list
| for the first time in *years*.

Please do!!

I'm not sure who you are, and I'm sorry I didn't read the article I'm
replying to or any of your other posts, and I won't follow up to you
again on this thread, but I think your'e that schemer who has been wrong
on a few counts about the Common Lisp spec when trolling this newsgroup?

--
Madhu
From: Kenneth Tilton on
Madhu wrote:
> * Tim Bradshaw <2009111820492416807-tfb(a)cleycom> :
> Wrote on Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:49:24 +0000:
>
> | On 2009-11-18 16:27:32 +0000, Madhu <enometh(a)meer.net> said:
> |
> |> Maybe i should take my long vacation now..
> |
> | I was going to say "oh yes, please" but I realise of course you're
> | quite entertaining. I'm thinking of adding an entry to my mad list
> | for the first time in *years*.
>
> Please do!!
>
> I'm not sure who you are, and I'm sorry I didn't read the article I'm
> replying to or any of your other posts, and I won't follow up to you
> again on this thread, but I think your'e that schemer who has been wrong
> on a few counts about the Common Lisp spec when trolling this newsgroup?

No, this guy is a Java fruitcake who thinks he has black helicopters he
can send after you. Nuff said?

kt

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From: Thomas F. Burdick on
On Nov 18, 8:54 pm, Kenneth Tilton <kentil...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Madhu wrote:
> > * Kenneth Tilton <4b0416af$0$22533$607ed...(a)cv.net> :
> > Wrote on Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:45:52 -0500:
>
> > | Madhu wrote:
> > |> * Kenneth Tilton <4b03eba4$0$31285$607ed...(a)cv.net> :
> > |> Wrote on Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:42:21 -0500:
> > |>
> > |> | Madhu wrote:
> > |> |> Why dont you post a few articles on lisp or something and maybe come
> > |> |> back to this thread later? All you are doing is continuing to
> > |> |> ``return each remark with a machine gun burst of no less than than
> > |> |> than four preposterous remarks each just screaming for rebuttal'' (in
> > |> |> Ken Tilton's words observed of Garret's tactics in
> > |> |> <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/f965378a4e2d4abe>
> > |> |> )
> > |> |
> > |> | "than than than"? Your editor has a stutter.
> > |>
> > |> Indeed.  Apologies for misquoting you---I notice I yanked this incorrect
> > |> text without fixing it....
> > |
> > | So it was someone else's mistake? Whose? The citation you keep
> > | providing has:
> > |
> > | "One cannot step into the same stream twice: as I said, I gave up on
> > | talking to you when you responded to one remark with a machine gun burst
> > | of no less than four preposterous remarks each just screaming for
> > | rebuttal but I recognized the phenomenon and was more interested in
> > | talking with people than doing a four hour flamewar in person."
>
> > No, it is this one, except for the misquoted stutter...
> > ... wait. mistake ...
> > Ah my quote left out the `walking away' part, Seeing how I got sucked
> > into the stream when by answering the the current person exhibiting the
> > illustrated behaviour..
>
> > Maybe i should take my long vacation now..
>
> No, don't go, you are close to the record. If we can get into a flamewar
> about you  not fessing up to misquoting me about someone you are having
> a flamewar with about their Usenet style in discussing the simulation of
> local lexical variables with symbol macros it just might put you over
> the top.

No Ken, don't do it! Don't you realize this was in the old usenet
prophecies? It will mean the end of the internet!

Actually, that's your point, isn't it? You're just trying to fan the
flames in order to make usenet melt down so that no one will see your
lies about Cells and your anti-Steele agenda.

(cue a flamewar about you provoking a flamewar about enometh not
fessing up to misquoting you about someone he is having a flamewar
with -- IN, I might add, a flamewar with yet another third party --
about their usenet style in discussing the simulation of local lexical
variables with symbol macros, as boil-over from a flamewar about the
lexical environment of inherited defstruct initforms)
From: Tim Bradshaw on
On 2009-11-19 05:26:34 +0000, Kenneth Tilton <kentilton(a)gmail.com> said:

> No, this guy is a Java fruitcake who thinks he has black helicopters he
> can send after you. Nuff said?

Given up Java, now using Python as it's more fashionable. Ruby is
next, I think. The helicopters are a real problem - used to be funded
by those nice bank people but they're all civil servants now, and it
appears that the tfb helicopter co was not too big to fail. We can
probably still afford to have Madhu abducted...

Now, seriously. I have a program in mind which:
* will need to parse XML config files (realistically: I'd use sexps if
I have the choice but the target market will not accept that.
* needs to run on a wide variety of Unix/Linux platforms (recompilation
is fine) including very old versions of the OS
* needs to be pretty intimate with POSIX
* probably will ship source but do not want GPL contagion

i was thinking of doing this in Java (and shipping a JRE it works on,
the way everyone else does), but there seems to be no serious posix
bindings for Java at the level I need (things like working out the
current UIDs/GIDs of the process, calling setuid &c). So I'm thinking,
realistically, Perl (and ship a perl runtime with it).

Looks to me like the only Lisp option would be CLISP.