the Modernization of Emacs
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From: David Kastrup on 12 Apr 2006 07:45 Greg Menke <gregm-xyzpdq3(a)toadmail.com> writes: > Pascal Costanza <pc(a)p-cos.net> writes: > >> David Kastrup wrote: >> > "Tim Bradshaw" <tfb+google(a)tfeb.org> writes: >> > >> >>All the emacs mac ports suck more-or-less equally. >> > What did you find wrong with Yaced? I have not used it myself (as I >> > don't _have_ MacOSX), but from what I heard it should be a pretty >> > straightforward Mac Port, and MacOSX certainly appears well-supported >> > in the Emacs-CVS code base. >> >> Aquamacs works pretty well for me, and even fulfils many of the OP's >> requirements. (However, he would probably complain that Mac OS X doesn't >> look enough like Windows, or something... ;) > > Aquamacs is pretty nice, just tedious to work with unless you're > into fooling around with the mouse. Same sort of problem as using > NTEmacs and cygwin on a Windows box. NTEmacs should be a normal port IIRC, with the normal defaults. And in general, Emacs will not open a mouse dialog when you trigger commands by keyboard. From what I hear, Aquamacs is configured to open a new frame (as opposed to switching buffers or opening a new window) for everything, and that means that you can't avoid using the GUI features for sorting out a self-cluttering desktop. But most other Emacsen (including the Yaced bundle for MacOSX) should not do that. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
From: Alan Mackenzie on 12 Apr 2006 06:43 Tim Bradshaw <tfb+google(a)tfeb.org> wrote on 11 Apr 2006 15:27:52 -0700: > Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> Also, the strings on a harp are at a _much_ higher tension than those >> of a guitar, so you get both a higher volume of sound and calloused >> fingers from it. > I'm not sure about *much* - the only set of strings I have to hand for > a guitar have tensions from 15-20lb, and some very casual searching > inidcates harps might have up to 30-something. But those guitar > tensions are or fairly light strings (10-46). I'd guess that > heavily-strung guitars might double the tension. Of course > nylon-strung guitars have much lower tensions (and necks without truss > rods...). I've never measured the tension. However, it really is much higher on a harp than a guitar. To pluck a guitar string, you can tickle it with a finger. To pluck a harp string requires firm muscular support from the wrist and arm. > Are harps all wood? Do they have problems with falling to bits under > load like wooden-framed pianos used to? Most of the structural bits are wood. The soundboard is always wood, otherwise it wouldn't sound right. I think the top is, too. On my harp, the column is carbon fibre for lightness. Harps don't fall to bits under the load, no - the tension from the 47 strings is an order of magnitude less than that of a piano's ~220. However, if you let a harp dry out (several years of very dry air) or swell up from dampness (several years of very humid air) it can come apart. And if you leave one in a hot car, the glue can melt and the whole thing comes adrift - so I've been told. > --tim (now what does this have to do with Lisp?) :-) -- Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany) Email: aacm(a)muuc.dee; to decode, wherever there is a repeated letter (like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a").
From: Pascal Costanza on 12 Apr 2006 08:28 David Kastrup wrote: > Greg Menke <gregm-xyzpdq3(a)toadmail.com> writes: > >>Aquamacs is pretty nice, just tedious to work with unless you're >>into fooling around with the mouse. Same sort of problem as using >>NTEmacs and cygwin on a Windows box. > > NTEmacs should be a normal port IIRC, with the normal defaults. And > in general, Emacs will not open a mouse dialog when you trigger > commands by keyboard. From what I hear, Aquamacs is configured to > open a new frame (as opposed to switching buffers or opening a new > window) for everything, and that means that you can't avoid using the > GUI features for sorting out a self-cluttering desktop. You can use Command-~ for switching between frames/windows, and the Mac OS X Expose feature to get an overview of all frames/windows, also via keyboard shortcuts. It works quite well this way. Pascal -- 3rd European Lisp Workshop July 3-4 - Nantes, France - co-located with ECOOP 2006 http://lisp-ecoop06.bknr.net/
From: funkyj on 12 Apr 2006 13:26 I think someone needs to be compared to hitler before we can put the thread to rest. --fj
From: David Kastrup on 12 Apr 2006 13:34
"funkyj" <funkyj(a)gmail.com> writes: > I think someone needs to be compared to hitler before we can put the > thread to rest. Is that the regular procedure to obey also when the combatants are situated in Germany? -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum |