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From: whisky-dave on 13 May 2010 11:27 "Russ D" <russd(a)myowndomain.org> wrote in message news:9ihlu5d734hi2qfmf37jdj17jgp7a0pn8t(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 12 May 2010 14:11:15 +0100, "whisky-dave" > <whisky-dave(a)final.front.ear> wrote: > >> >>"sobriquet" <dohduhdah(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>news:00db77da-5123-47f6-bfea-90c5d0970c74(a)b18g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >>> On 10 mei, 14:37, "whisky-dave" <whisky-d...(a)final.front.ear> wrote: >>>> "sobriquet" <dohduh...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> >>>> news:a73c523e-fe7e-4c75-8b7c-17019381e543(a)n15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... >>>> On 7 mei, 16:19, "Peter" <peter...(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > "whisky-dave" <whisky-d...(a)final.front.ear> wrote in message >>>> >> >> >>>> You aren't allowed to keep library books unless you are a thief. >>>> Most people return them. >>> >>> That's besides the point. >>No it's not, libraries should only be used by those people that are >>willing >>to return the books they borrow. Otherwise if librarys lent to peolpe like >>you they'd soon have no books left. > > That's a particularly bad analogy. You didn't quite think it through, did > you. Enough to outthink sobriquet, which doesn;t take much. > > What's so wonderful about the internet library is that you can borrow a > book and never return it. Not quite I've never seen an internet library lend a book. Books are physical things like CD/DVDs . Did you download the hardback book ? >The original book still remains for anyone to > borrow and they also never have to return it. That's because they never actually take it. But even if they do download it, there can still be a cost involved. Just having someone at the internet library maintaining the computer is a cost >"There is no loss of anyone's > books by borrowing them indefinitely if they are digital. 'If' they are digital, books aren't digital they can come in a digitsl form. They can come on DVDs/CDs even cassettes, even HDs and iPads. haven;t you heard about the problems Google is having by claiming that all unknown works belong to the company that scans them in rather than the original author. There are audio books too, you can download, the terminology is to read them, even if you don't or can't read you can still say you've read the book. Note these are audio books in that they a read and you listen, rather than downloadable books that you read with your eyes (not your ears).
From: whisky-dave on 13 May 2010 11:46 "sobriquet" <dohduhdah(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:af359ea2-3617-4cea-bae1-dbc088ba3e18(a)e1g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... > On 13 mei, 15:09, "whisky-dave" <whisky-d...(a)final.front.ear> wrote: >>[..babbling..] > > I'm done with you.. I only argue with people who are able to deal with > arguments > in a rational fashion, not with manipulative nazi cockroaches who keep > coming > up with the same bullshit in response to rational arguments. Here here' "nazi cockroaches " > > If you follow a course on argumentation, perhaps we could continue > this discussion in a rational > fashion: I don;t need a pirate video to teach reasoning, you do. When you've watched it and understood maybe you'll understand it. We can live in hope. > > http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4919006/TTC_VIDEO_-_Argumentation__The_Study_of_Effective_Reasoning_2nd_
From: Peter on 13 May 2010 19:13 "sobriquet" <dohduhdah(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c6b16be6-9392-4db6-bd6e-21a0e3a42c57(a)o14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > On 12 mei, 22:16, "Peter" <peter...(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >> "sobriquet" <dohduh...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> news:2d14e154-b791-4e05-a4aa-cf4c4986be90(a)b18g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >> >> > You can read books for free at the library. You need a paid form of >> > membership to borrow books. >> >> True >> >> > Where I live, it's legal to go to the library and bring a digital >> > camera and make a copy from >> > books for personal use. So that's exactly the same as downloading an >> > ebook online. >> > Both are legal, but I sympathize with you guys who live in a fascist >> > police state where people >> > are not allowed to access information freely. >> >> Personal use only. Not to share. Assuming you do live in the Netherlands >> the >> law expressly prohibits sharing without paying the publisher a fee. >> Please >> stop trolling. >> >> http://www.copyright.com/viewPage.do?pageCode=s41 >> >> -- >> Peter > > True. Not to share. But I do it anyway since copyright laws primarily > <snip> Point proven. If you think you should obey only the laws that you like, you should move to an island with others here who think laws are made for others. -- Peter
From: Henry Olson on 13 May 2010 20:11 On Thu, 13 May 2010 19:13:06 -0400, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >"sobriquet" <dohduhdah(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:c6b16be6-9392-4db6-bd6e-21a0e3a42c57(a)o14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >> On 12 mei, 22:16, "Peter" <peter...(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >>> "sobriquet" <dohduh...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:2d14e154-b791-4e05-a4aa-cf4c4986be90(a)b18g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> > You can read books for free at the library. You need a paid form of >>> > membership to borrow books. >>> >>> True >>> >>> > Where I live, it's legal to go to the library and bring a digital >>> > camera and make a copy from >>> > books for personal use. So that's exactly the same as downloading an >>> > ebook online. >>> > Both are legal, but I sympathize with you guys who live in a fascist >>> > police state where people >>> > are not allowed to access information freely. >>> >>> Personal use only. Not to share. Assuming you do live in the Netherlands >>> the >>> law expressly prohibits sharing without paying the publisher a fee. >>> Please >>> stop trolling. >>> >>> http://www.copyright.com/viewPage.do?pageCode=s41 >>> >>> -- >>> Peter >> >> True. Not to share. But I do it anyway since copyright laws primarily >> <snip> > >Point proven. If you think you should obey only the laws that you like, you >should move to an island with others here who think laws are made for >others. "Laws" are only someone's opinion. And no matter if even 5 billion people agree to that opinion, it doesn't mean it is right nor correct for 100% of the population. It just means that that's the majority opinion, nothing more. When is the majority ever right? "Shall we judge the country by the majority or by the minority? Certainly, by the minority. The mass are animal, in a state of pupilage, and nearer the chimpanzee." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
From: sobriquet on 13 May 2010 20:51
On 14 mei, 01:13, "Peter" <peter...(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: > "sobriquet" <dohduh...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:c6b16be6-9392-4db6-bd6e-21a0e3a42c57(a)o14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On 12 mei, 22:16, "Peter" <peter...(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: > >> "sobriquet" <dohduh...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >>news:2d14e154-b791-4e05-a4aa-cf4c4986be90(a)b18g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > > >> > You can read books for free at the library. You need a paid form of > >> > membership to borrow books. > > >> True > > >> > Where I live, it's legal to go to the library and bring a digital > >> > camera and make a copy from > >> > books for personal use. So that's exactly the same as downloading an > >> > ebook online. > >> > Both are legal, but I sympathize with you guys who live in a fascist > >> > police state where people > >> > are not allowed to access information freely. > > >> Personal use only. Not to share. Assuming you do live in the Netherlands > >> the > >> law expressly prohibits sharing without paying the publisher a fee. > >> Please > >> stop trolling. > > >>http://www.copyright.com/viewPage.do?pageCode=s41 > > >> -- > >> Peter > > > True. Not to share. But I do it anyway since copyright laws primarily > > <snip> > > Point proven. If you think you should obey only the laws that you like, you > should move to an island with others here who think laws are made for > others. > > -- > Peter Your slavish mentality and uncritical attitude towards authority is exactly what allowed the NSDAP in former Nazi Germany to exterminate unwanted minorities on an industrial scale, while the rest of the population were generally happy to cooperate. If more people called their laws into question when they started out with relatively subtle human rights violations, to marginalize and criminalize certain minorities, things would never have spiraled out of control the way they did. |