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From: jimp on 27 May 2010 11:43 In sci.physics Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@ .- --- -. dotat> wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 2010 22:00:53 GMT, habshi(a)anony.net wrote: > >> >> >>photo on >> >> >>http://www.ecofriend.org/entry/mira-ev-shatters-previous-record-by-running-more-than-1000km-on-a-single-charge/ >>Cant find youtube video >> >>Amazing stuff! Now wind and solar energy will supply all our transport >>needs as well. > > Calculate! > Battery + motor efficiency, > (how much of the fed charge do you get back as drive) > and then, > how many nuclear power plants will be needed to charge > all electric vehicles. > Funny you should mention that as a recent report from the UK says they would need to build 6 nuke plants and install a "smart grid" of millions of charging points to deal with the increase and wild fluctuations in demand if all the cars went electric. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/7764110/Turning-all-cars-electric-in-Britain-needs-boost-in-power-supply.html -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.
From: LSMFT on 27 May 2010 12:50 habshi(a)anony.net wrote: > photo on > > > http://www.ecofriend.org/entry/mira-ev-shatters-previous-record-by-running-more-than-1000km-on-a-single-charge/ > Cant find youtube video > > Amazing stuff! Now wind and solar energy will supply all our transport > needs as well. > excerpt > > Eco Factor: Zero-emission electric vehicle betters its own world > record by running 1000km without recharging. > > Last month we reported about the Mira EV making a world record by > traveling 345 miles (555.6km) on a single recharge. The car has now > made another world record by traveling 1003.184km without a recharge. > The zero-emission vehicle is powered by 8320 cylindrical lithium-ion > batteries supplied by Sanyo. > > The record was created during May 22 to 23, 2010, by a team of drivers > at Japan Electric Vehicle Club, a civic group based in Tokyo. The car > ran for 27 and half hours at around 40kph on average. The team will > soon ask the Guinness World Records to officially recognize the drive > It that with the air conditioner on? -- LSMFT I haven't spoken to my wife in 18 months. I don't like to interrupt her.
From: Bill Ghrist on 27 May 2010 17:09 On 5/27/2010 11:43 AM, jimp(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > In sci.physics Helmut Wabnig<hwabnig@ .- --- -. dotat> wrote: >> On Wed, 26 May 2010 22:00:53 GMT, habshi(a)anony.net wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> photo on >>> >>> >>> http://www.ecofriend.org/entry/mira-ev-shatters-previous-record-by-running-more-than-1000km-on-a-single-charge/ >>> Cant find youtube video >>> >>> Amazing stuff! Now wind and solar energy will supply all our transport >>> needs as well. >> >> Calculate! >> Battery + motor efficiency, >> (how much of the fed charge do you get back as drive) >> and then, >> how many nuclear power plants will be needed to charge >> all electric vehicles. >> > > Funny you should mention that as a recent report from the UK says they > would need to build 6 nuke plants and install a "smart grid" of millions of > charging points to deal with the increase and wild fluctuations in demand > if all the cars went electric. > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/7764110/Turning-all-cars-electric-in-Britain-needs-boost-in-power-supply.html > > There's not much detail in the article, but it sounds as though they did not account for most electric vehicle charging being done overnight when other electrical demand is at its lowest. They say the grid is currently running at full capacity, but that would only be in the daytime. I don't know the details for the UK, but in the US there is enough excess generation capacity at night to charge electric vehicles even if everyone converted to electric. Daytime charging would add to peak demand, however.
From: jimp on 27 May 2010 17:41 Bill Ghrist <notmyname(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 5/27/2010 11:43 AM, jimp(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> In sci.physics Helmut Wabnig<hwabnig@ .- --- -. dotat> wrote: >>> On Wed, 26 May 2010 22:00:53 GMT, habshi(a)anony.net wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> photo on >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.ecofriend.org/entry/mira-ev-shatters-previous-record-by-running-more-than-1000km-on-a-single-charge/ >>>> Cant find youtube video >>>> >>>> Amazing stuff! Now wind and solar energy will supply all our transport >>>> needs as well. >>> >>> Calculate! >>> Battery + motor efficiency, >>> (how much of the fed charge do you get back as drive) >>> and then, >>> how many nuclear power plants will be needed to charge >>> all electric vehicles. >>> >> >> Funny you should mention that as a recent report from the UK says they >> would need to build 6 nuke plants and install a "smart grid" of millions of >> charging points to deal with the increase and wild fluctuations in demand >> if all the cars went electric. >> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/7764110/Turning-all-cars-electric-in-Britain-needs-boost-in-power-supply.html >> >> > There's not much detail in the article, but it sounds as though they did > not account for most electric vehicle charging being done overnight when > other electrical demand is at its lowest. They say the grid is > currently running at full capacity, but that would only be in the > daytime. I don't know the details for the UK, but in the US there is > enough excess generation capacity at night to charge electric vehicles > even if everyone converted to electric. Daytime charging would add to > peak demand, however. Actually for warmer areas demand peaks at around noon and then again in the evening. http://www.caiso.com/outlook/SystemStatus.html In cooler areas you tend to only get one peak in the evening. http://www.theimo.com/imoweb/siteShared/demand_price.asp?sid=ic So the net result of charging at home would be that the evening peak would get even higher as everyone got home and plugged in their car. The only way avoid reality is to not charge before about midnight. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.
From: Surfer on 28 May 2010 02:22
On Thu, 27 May 2010 17:09:17 -0400, Bill Ghrist <notmyname(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On 5/27/2010 11:43 AM, jimp(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> In sci.physics Helmut Wabnig<hwabnig@ .- --- -. dotat> wrote: >>> On Wed, 26 May 2010 22:00:53 GMT, habshi(a)anony.net wrote: >> >> Funny you should mention that as a recent report from the UK says they >> would need to build 6 nuke plants and install a "smart grid" of millions of >> charging points to deal with the increase and wild fluctuations in demand >> if all the cars went electric. >> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/7764110/Turning-all-cars-electric-in-Britain-needs-boost-in-power-supply.html >> >> >There's not much detail in the article, but it sounds as though they did >not account for most electric vehicle charging being done overnight when >other electrical demand is at its lowest. > Charging could also be done during daylight hours while people are at work, if parking lots had power points for charging. That could be a good use for solar power. |