From: life imitates life on
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:31:18 -0500, "Rich." <rcres(a)XXcomcast.net> wrote:

>
>"DaveC" <invalid(a)invalid.net> wrote in message
>news:0001HW.C7982CF900D218CEB08A39AF(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>I used to own a pair of flush cutters where the jaws and the handles met at
>> about a 45-degree angle. Made for a nice tool for getting in between
>> components when you needed to nip something off flush with the PCB.
>

Jeez, for $27 plus tax and shipping? Damn. For about $5 more, you can
simply buy the best steel in the world. Lindstrom.

If you are putting out that much already, what is adding 5% for a
twofold gain in quality?

If you do not want to spend that much, the cheap Xcelite, and Plato
brands, etc. are the right choice, and you shouldn't spend more than $12
each for a ten pack of them. Also worth it. If you are buying the
cheaper brands, you should buy at least two, if not the ten pack, because
they will wear due to the softer steels used. The Swiss brand will last
forever or until you break them via some form of abuse or other.
From: Greegor on
On Feb 11, 2:39 am, Sansui Samari <jimjam1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I cobbed a bunch of lindstrom cutters and pliers from a place I worked
> at years ago.  They were going belly up and tossed out boxes of the
> things.  I'm still using the few that I haven't given away or broken.
> As long as you don't use them to cut steal (hence the broken cutters)
> they are awesome. I wish I would have grabbed more.

Were they going belly up because of buying only the finest, or despite
of that?

At the liquidation sales for some bankrupt companies, sometimes
I have seen hard, tangeable evidence of WHY they went broke.
From: Geoffrey S. Mendelson on
Fred Abse wrote:

> Golden rule: Never, under any circumstances, lend cutters to *anyone*.
> Never let them out of your sight / control.

That in my humble opionion is just plain silly. If you refuse to lend people
tools when they ask, they wait until you are not looking and borrow them
anyway.

The best thing to do, IMHO is to buy several sets of medium grade tools, i.e.
cheap but not the best. Still capable of doing the job, but nothing you would
worry about if it came back unusable.

Then you leave one set around for people to borrow and lend them
out agressively.

The good tools you keep locked up and never even let them know you have them.

:-)

I used to have a guy who worked for me part time who was constantly having
his tools stolen. From screwdrivers to floor pullers. I just bought a bunch of
screwdrivers for him and on his days off, I went around and collected them
from where he left them.

Geoff.

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From: Dave Plowman (News) on
In article <3gttkt.5qe.17.6(a)news.alt.net>,
Meat Plow wrote:
> > The Lindstroms are worth the extra outlay if a long term, personal tool
> >is desired. For a production level, multi-user tool, the lower quality
> >steel, shorter life span brands are cheaper and are the better value for
> >such a setting. It just depends on who the tool is for, how well they
> >take care of their tools, and the term you wish the tool to last for.

> Never heard of Lindstrom

Fairly well known as the 'Rolls Royce' of cutters etc. But debatable if
they are worth the cost. If you're only doing the things those cutters
were designed for, like snipping copper leads, cheaper ones treated as
disposable can be fine. And use a 'disposed' of pair for the things that
could damage the good ones.

But I do have some Lindstrom tools.

--
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From: Geoffrey S. Mendelson on
Fred Abse wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:49:03 +0000, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
>
>> That in my humble opionion is just plain silly. If you refuse to lend people
>> tools when they ask, they wait until you are not looking and borrow them
>> anyway.
>
> They get fired!

That only works if:

1. You are high enough up the food chain to do anything about it.

2. Have less invested in them than the tools.

Maybe a small company with a few employees of no particular skills, but
in the real world?

Geoff.


--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel gsm(a)mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM
New word I coined 12/13/09, "Sub-Wikipedia" adj, describing knowledge or
understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the situation.
i.e possessing less facts or information than can be found in the Wikipedia.