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From: life imitates life on 17 Feb 2010 08:42 On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:48:10 +0100, "Ban" <bansuri(a)web.de> wrote: >Wild_Bill wrote: >> I'm not playing this game, but you're entirely incorrect that there >> are no hand tool cutters that are capable of, or intended to >> withstand the cutting forces of steel. >> >> Cotter pins, safety lockwire, steel fence wire and various other >> steel wire products are routinely cut with hand tool diagonal cutters >> or wire cutters that are not specifically made for copper or aluminum >> only. Many quality wiring pliers/crimpers/strippers include screw cutters, >> that cut steel screws without any damage to the tool. >> >> The cutters don't have to be big Channelock, Klein or other >> industrial duty models. >> I have miniature cutters that I've cut steel wire with for many years >> without damage, and have also been used to cut small springs. The >> cutting edges are unharmed. >> >> My Channelock side cutters and several other wire cutters I own have >> cut lots of nails, been used to pull nails and large steel staples, >> even at the tips of the cutting edges, without damage to the tools. >> I don't try to cut drywall screws with them, or twist drills, or >> endmills. They still cut stranded or solid copper wire and cables >> just fine, and nylon cord or steel coat hanger wire or any other >> materials that I need them to cut, essentially like they were still >> new. >> The only attention that these cutters and pliers have needed in many >> years of use, is an occasional 1 or 2 drops of oil at the hinge, and >> proper storage. >> > >right, I have here a pair of wirecutters made by Belzer (Titan2000) which I >bought in '86. Sill perfect with a small spring that keeps the cut wires >from flying into your eyes. >ciao Ban > Yes, but would you ever use them to cut piano wire? I rest my case.
From: Jasen Betts on 18 Feb 2010 04:09 On 2010-02-17, life imitates life <pasticcio(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:44:56 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)" ><dave(a)davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > >>In article <qkbln5dscr39tdk0cbnh3v2gpefa48gtdm(a)4ax.com>, >> life imitates life <pasticcio(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >>> I have a pair of twister pliers for lock wire. They are not actually >>> meant to be use to CUT the wire either, even though they have side >>> cutters incorporated into them. Any monkey knows how to flex fracture >>> wire that uses a medium that work hardens. That is the right way to >>> "cut" lock wire. In fact, one is supposed to use the side cutter to >>> simply score the wire a bit, and then the number of flexes is reduced to >>> just a few. >> >>Lock wire is soft steel. If you have pliers not able to cut that, put them >>back in the kid's play box where they came from. > > > Lock wire is NOT "soft steel" you complete and utter retard. It is a > very specialized, high tensile strength wire. Soft steel does not get > made into wire AT ALL. tie wire is soft steel. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news(a)netfront.net ---
From: Dave Plowman (News) on 18 Feb 2010 05:43 In article <ip5pn55lbm604s4v4kmut5u55ohe2m9p2v(a)4ax.com>, life imitates life <pasticcio(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: > >Bolt cutters are the same in principle as side cutters. Do you know > >anything about tools? > YOU are WRONG AGAIN! Dumbfuck! I am not talking about a three foot > long tool, dumbass. THey utilize a pincer operating mechanism. So bolt cutters? The same principle as side cutters? > Not that you could ever have a grasp of metal working methodologies. You seem to want to apply terms to whatever you feel like. Bolt cutters to the man in the street work in the same way as side cutters. -- *There's two theories to arguing with a woman. Neither one works * Dave Plowman dave(a)davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound.
From: Dave Plowman (News) on 18 Feb 2010 05:53 In article <hlj04l$485$1(a)reversiblemaps.ath.cx>, Jasen Betts <jasen(a)xnet.co.nz> wrote: > > Lock wire is NOT "soft steel" you complete and utter retard. It is a > > very specialized, high tensile strength wire. Soft steel does not get > > made into wire AT ALL. > tie wire is soft steel. It certainly is as used on vintage cars, etc. High tensile stuff wouldn't twist without breaking. Perhaps things are different on the planet Mr Life lives on. -- *To be intoxicated is to feel sophisticated, but not be able to say it. Dave Plowman dave(a)davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound.
From: life imitates life on 18 Feb 2010 08:25
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:53:45 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave(a)davenoise.co.uk> wrote: >In article <hlj04l$485$1(a)reversiblemaps.ath.cx>, > Jasen Betts <jasen(a)xnet.co.nz> wrote: >> > Lock wire is NOT "soft steel" you complete and utter retard. It is a >> > very specialized, high tensile strength wire. Soft steel does not get >> > made into wire AT ALL. > >> tie wire is soft steel. > >It certainly is as used on vintage cars, etc. High tensile stuff wouldn't >twist without breaking. That is the very attribute that keeps lock wire from breaking. High tensile strength wire resists breaking when twisted. You are confusing tensile capacity for brittleness, which this wire NEVER has. It is made from steel that is specifically formulated such that it will NOT work harden. Not that you would or could even grasp the concept, since you are obviously unaware of what "tensile" means. > >Perhaps things are different on the planet Mr Life lives on. Perhaps you are too quick to jump on the know-it-all bandwagon, because you don't even come close. ALL locking wire is made from stainless or it would rust right off the nuts and bolts it is threaded through to be locking. Perhaps where you live folks are only aware of how to act as if they have any grasp of physics. That sad part is that it is blatantly obvious that you do not. |