From: life imitates life on
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:16:28 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave(a)davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

>
>A test for *any* decent cutter is piano wire. Properly hardened jaws won't
>be damaged by this.

You are an idiot, and a troll.

Piano wire is cut with a heavy shear, not a nip cutter. There are no
nip style cutters made meant for steel with the exception of bolt cutters
and they are a completely different animal. That is why a block shear
cutter is used.
From: Dave Plowman (News) on
In article <rooin5p9ke8epetf6rak3ird8thp4lgluf(a)4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
> >A test for *any* decent cutter is piano wire. Properly hardened jaws
> >won't be damaged by this.

> You are an idiot, and a troll.

> Piano wire is cut with a heavy shear, not a nip cutter. There are no
> nip style cutters made meant for steel with the exception of bolt cutters
> and they are a completely different animal. That is why a block shear
> cutter is used.

Try learning something about tools. It's a standard test to check the
quality of side cutter jaws. There is no difference in principle between
cutting any sort of wire.

If your favourite brand fails this go get a decent one.

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Dave Plowman dave(a)davenoise.co.uk London SW
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From: MassiveProng on
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:15:05 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave(a)davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <rooin5p9ke8epetf6rak3ird8thp4lgluf(a)4ax.com>,
> life imitates life <pasticcio(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
>> >A test for *any* decent cutter is piano wire. Properly hardened jaws
>> >won't be damaged by this.
>
>> You are an idiot, and a troll.
>
>> Piano wire is cut with a heavy shear, not a nip cutter. There are no
>> nip style cutters made meant for steel with the exception of bolt cutters
>> and they are a completely different animal. That is why a block shear
>> cutter is used.
>
>Try learning something about tools. It's a standard test to check the
>quality of side cutter jaws. There is no difference in principle between
>cutting any sort of wire.

You're an idiot. There is a HUGE difference between pincer type
cutting and shear cutting and both are used in the industry, dingledorf.

>If your favourite brand fails this go get a decent one.

Wrong. It is the standard "destructive" analysis. There are other
methods for testing the hardness without damaging the cutting face.

Also, they are not all tested that way. There are softer materials used
for lighter duty work media, and they get tested differently.

As far as "what any cutter can do..." goes, the construction of the
cutter determines its correct usage limits. regardless of any cutting
edge hardness tests that may or may not have been specified or performed.
Not only do the edges have to have specific hardness ratings, but the
meat of the cutter jaws have to be designed heavy enough to be able to
withstand the forces a given size and type of wire proposed to be cut by
it, as well as the shock wave that traverses through the jaws at the
moment the wire snaps and the cutting edge 'mating faces' close together.

THAT is for pincer type "cutters". Shear type is a different test
standard. Not that you would know about such things.

I know more about tools than you ever will.

The FEA analysis on your skull comes back with a reading of "Hollow
structure found... Analysis halted" Even the phrenologist nearly
vomited.
From: RFI-EMI-GUY on
On 2/14/2010 11:46 PM, life imitates life wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:14:38 -0500, RFI-EMI-GUY<Rhyolite(a)NETTALLY.COM>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/10/2010 12:29 PM, DaveC wrote:
>>> I used to own a pair of flush cutters where the jaws and the handles met at
>>> about a 45-degree angle. Made for a nice tool for getting in between
>>> components when you needed to nip something off flush with the PCB.
>>>
>>> I think they were Xcelite.
>>>
>>> I can't find anything like those Xcelites anymore. Everything is either
>>> straight (no angle between the jaws and handles) or maybe a slight angle.
>>>
>>> Anyone know of a good cutter that has a 45-degree angle? Flush-cut desirable
>>> but not critical. A 1/2" (12 mm) jaw opening would be nice, though.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dave
>>>
>> I picked up a barely used set of Lindstrom (Sweden)Model Rx 8142. I am
>> not sure if the angle is more than 30 degrees, but very well balanced
>> and cushioned. I have forbidden the family to use them! My other cutters
>> look like they have been used for cutting iron nails!
>
>
> Does that say something about you, or are you saying that the other
> members of your family were never properly educated on tool care? :-)

I think the concept of returning tools to the toolbox and using proper
tools for the job is lost on certain other members of the family. I have
given up training them.

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"�

"Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo ;-P

From: RFI-EMI-GUY on
On 2/15/2010 12:39 AM, Greegor wrote:
> On Feb 14, 9:54 pm, RFI-EMI-GUY<Rhyol...(a)NETTALLY.COM> wrote:
>> On 2/12/2010 6:41 AM, Greegor wrote:
>>
>> Can anybody tell me why Xcelite nut drivers smell like puke?
>>
>> --
>> Joe Leikhim K4SAT
>> "The RFI-EMI-GUY"�
>>
>> "Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo ;-P
>
> I never posted the puke comment.
> Has a cowardly sporger been putting words in my mouth?
>
> I see that the original header from RFI-EMI-GUY's
> message shows some info about the message
> being replied to.
>
> It looks like some coward is using eternal-september
> to sporge me.
>
> 0001HW.C7982CF900D218CEB08A39AF(a)news.eternal-september.org
Sorry; I meant to snip out your message properly but didn't have proper
tool!

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"�

"Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo ;-P