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From: »Q« on 2 Feb 2010 23:03 In <news:Xns9D13B1D861DE4bearbottoms1gmaicom(a)news.albasani.net>, Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote: > =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= <boxcars(a)gmx.net> wrote in > news:20100202102810.6fefefbb(a)bellgrove.remarqs.net: > > >> By your standards, no software designed for Windows is free then. > > > > No, that doesn't follow from what I said. > > > >> All but maybe a few programs on the Pricelessware list are > >> commercial software by your standards. > > > > That doesn't follow either, but thanks for trying. > > Sure it does. Nope. > To use Windows software on a Windows machine, you must buy Windows OS > so by your logic it ain't freeware. You've invented a premise I wasn't using then drawn a conclusion I didn't draw, and you've called it my logic. Again, thanks for trying.
From: Craig on 3 Feb 2010 00:57 On 02/02/2010 07:52 PM, KristleBawl wrote: > Craig expressed an opinion: >> On 02/02/2010 06:23 PM, KristleBawl wrote: >>> As a Windows user, I cannot install Mac or Linux freeware apps... >> >> Oh yes, you can. Often that's because a lot of their apps are written >> to libraries which are cross-platform. Consider this partial list >> from Wikipedia. GTK apps: >> >> * AbiWord - Word processor > > Multi-platform freeware is available for many Operating Systems, not > just windows *or* Mac, etc.. Then take this: <http://wubi-installer.org/>. Look, you can keep shifting the goal posts on this thread but I'm out, KB. -- -Craig
From: za kAT on 3 Feb 2010 06:23 On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:41:43 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote: > Craig <netburgher(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in > news:hkao64$fr0$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > >> On 02/02/2010 06:23 PM, KristleBawl wrote: >>> I agree that IE is not freeware and I said right along I was not >>> talking about IE. *You* brought up IE in this thread. >> >> Ok. Good. >> >>> There are *other* apps >>> listed in the OP link that *are* freeware, but not very many. Only >>> the ones that are *not* bundled, even though they are only offered >>> /to Windows users/ as freeware. >> >> Whether they're freeware would depend on the licensing. Same as with >> IE. >> >>> As a Windows user, I cannot install Mac or Linux freeware apps... >> >> Oh yes, you can. Often that's because a lot of their apps are written >> to libraries which are cross-platform. Consider this partial list >> from Wikipedia. GTK apps: >> >> * AbiWord - Word processor >> * CinePaint >> * Ekiga (ex GnomeMeeting) - VoIP and video conferencing >> application * Evolution - personal information manager >> * GIMP - Raster graphics editor >> * Gnumeric - Spreadsheet software >> * Chromium - Web browser based upon WebKit >> * GRAMPS - Genealogy software >> * Inkscape - SVG Vector graphics editor >> * K-3D - free 3d modeling and animation program >> * Marionnet - An interactive network simulator >> * Midori - lightweight web browser >> * Nero Linux - An optical disc media authoring program >> * Pidgin - Instant messaging >> * VMware Player - virtualization software >> * Wireshark - packet analyzer >> >> A lot of these and more besides were written by *nix users for *nix. >> But the communities grew to include other platforms. So yes, you can >> install a lot of Linux (can't say much about OSX) apps. >> >>> but that doesn't make them not freeware. >> >> I agree. >> >>> You can't have it both ways. If >>> you insist that Windows freeware is not freeware because you have to >>> buy Windows, then you might as well say Mac freeware is not freeware, >>> either, because you have to buy a Mac. >> >> Again, that would depend on the application's license. There is no >> "both ways" about this. >> >>> Linux isn't freeware, either, >>> because you have to buy the hardware to install it on. >> >> Well, that's a separate and distinct topic. >> > > No it isn't. Look, this isn't an argument. Yes it is. No it isn't, it's just contradiction. Yes it is. No it isn't, Argument is an intellectual process ... contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says. No it isn't. Yes it is. Not at all. Now look! <ding> That's it. Good morning. -- zakAT(a)pooh.the.cat
From: za kAT on 3 Feb 2010 06:37 On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:09:51 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote: > It is called capitalism. It's called marketing, and I don't choose to believe the hype, and allow these people to insult my intelligence. Personally, I don't believe buying a M$ OS is anywhere near the worst deal I have ever made, but deal it is, money changed hands, if I didn't throw green one's at them, legally I cannot use their 'freeware'. We're having an adult conversation here, numpties move on. -- zakAT(a)pooh.the.cat
From: KristleBawl on 3 Feb 2010 09:27
Craig expressed an opinion: > On 02/02/2010 07:52 PM, KristleBawl wrote: >> Craig expressed an opinion: >>> On 02/02/2010 06:23 PM, KristleBawl wrote: >>>> As a Windows user, I cannot install Mac or Linux freeware >>>> apps... >>> >>> Oh yes, you can. Often that's because a lot of their apps are >>> written to libraries which are cross-platform. Consider this >>> partial list from Wikipedia. GTK apps: >>> >>> * AbiWord - Word processor >> >> Multi-platform freeware is available for many Operating Systems, >> not just windows *or* Mac, etc.. > > Then take this: <http://wubi-installer.org/>. Look, you can keep > shifting the goal posts on this thread but I'm out, KB. What does dual-boot have to do with it? I use Windows only, not windows *and* something else. Stop changing the subject. -- A penny for your thoughts; $20 to act it out. KristleBawl's Taglines by Tagzilla 0.066.2 http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla Instabird development http://www.instantbird.com/ |